Memesprit

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happy birthday mesprit
 

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list of things that happened in the time span of this analysis:
- kiyo resigned from tl
- eternally became tl
- hootie resigned from nu c&c forum leader
- eternally and disjunction replaced him
- disjunction also quit after getting co-leader position months later
- kay became c&c mods
- finch became nu mod
- nupl happened
- 1st edition of snake happened
- 2nd one will probably happen as well before this is done
- spl 9 happened
- 70 analyses were uploaded from the date this thread was posted until now (a year)
turtonator, sigilyph, sawk, shuckle, omastar, ludicolo, pyukumuku, minior, charizard, oricorio-baile, quagsire (when it was actually nu like last year), rhydon, granbull, whimsicott, slowking, cinccino, claydol, typhlosion, vanilluxe, delphox, golbat, steelix, alolan raticate, xatu, aurorus, braviary, cryogonal, liepard, slowbro, clawitzer, guzzlord, vikavolt, garbodor, medicham, seismitoad, druddigon, lilligant, rotom-c, vaporeon, hariyama, klinklang, scrafty, samurott, ditto, rotom, alolan exeggutor, zangoose, froslass, heliolisk, palossand, crustle, aromatisse, type: null, scyther, altaria, vanilluxe again, mega audino, vivillon, gigalith, malamar, whimsicott again, hitmonlee, toxicroak, magmortar, slowbro again, accelgor, delphox again, uxie, gourgeist, and vileplume

happy birthday mesprit
and you still suck!!!!!

Happy birthday mesprit
 
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[OVERVIEW]

Mesprit is a very niche Pokemon, (AC) with its ability to setting itself apart from other Psychic-(AH)types in the tier with its access to both Healing Wish and Stealth Rock. Unlike Uxie, Mesprit has the coverage and power it needs in order to deter Xatu from switching in, letting it set up Stealth Rock without needing Pursuit support. Mesprit also sports decent all-around bulk, letting it be a one-time check to a myriad of foes if needed. However, Mesprit's mediocre Speed leaves it vulnerable to various Pokemon such as Sneasel, Rotom, and Whimscott Whimsicott, limiting its use versus more faster fast-paced teams.

[SET]
name: Offensive Support
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Healing Wish
item: Colbur Berry
ability: Levitate
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Stealth Rock is the most important move in the game and Mesprit is an effective user of the move thanks to its decent Speed and ability to threaten Xatu, (RC) unlike other setters such as Steelix. Psychock Psyshock is Mesprit's best STAB move, as Psychic does significantly less damage to Cryogonal in particular. Ice Beam is Mesprit's best coverage option for threatening Xatu that attempt to switch in on it setting up Stealth Rock and also hits Pokemon such as Guzzlord. Finally, Healing Wish provides great utility in bringing back a weakened teammate back to full, (RC) at the cost of Mesprit's life. U-turn is also an option to ensure Mesprit isn't helpless versus Sneasel and is able to maintain momentum. Signal Beam has its merits for in hitting Pokemon such as Sneasel and Malamar.

Set Details
========

The given EV spread maxmizes maximizes Mesprit's offensive capabilities, (AC) ensuring that it does not remain passive against most teams. A Modest nature is used over a Timid nature for additional damage on certain targets such as Xatu and Whimsicott, notably OHKOing the latter with Ice Beam after Stealth Rock. However, using a Timid nature is also an option to let Mesprit Speed tie with Medicham and Gallade. Colbur Berry lets it Mesprit effectively check Fighting-types such as Hariyama and Hitmonlee, (RC) but and also has use in being able allowing Mesprit to escape from Pursuit one time.

Usage Tips
========

During the early stages of the game, Mesprit's aim should be to get up Stealth Rock as soon as possible. If the opposing team has Xatu, it's best to avoid the use the of Stealth Rock and instead predict its to switch in by 2HKOing it with Ice Beam, . (RC, AP) The key is trying to win the mindgame mind game versus Xatu to ensure Mesprit cripples it significantly and gets up Stealth Rock successfully. When at full HP, Mesprit can also be used to switch into the likes of Hariyama, Passimian, and Hitmonlee, ; (RC, ASC) be wary of U-turn in Passimian'(add apos)s case, though. If Mesprit is no longer useful or in situations where it's KOed by Pursuit upon switching out, it's best to use Healing Wish in order to bring back a teammate back to peak condition in order to gain some initiative.

Team Options
========

Mesprit is most effective on more offensive teams, so setup sweepers such as Samurott, Klinklang, and Incineroar make great teammates, with each one being able to threaten some of Mesprit's checks. All of them are able to take advantage of a Sneasel locked into Pursuit and get an easy set up setup opportunity. Whimsicott checks most Dark-types and also breaks past Slowbro, which walls Mesprit otherwise. Decidueye also makes for a good teammate, (AC) as it threatens Slowbro and appreciates a potential second Healing Wish giving it another chance at breaking through teams through Healing Wish. Wallbreakers such as Dhelmise or and Vikavolt are typically worn down quickly, (AC) so they appreciate extra opportunities to wreak havoc on the opposing team.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

A lure set using Z-(AH)Dazzling Gleam with various coverage options such as Grass Knot and Thunderbolt lets it Mesprit beat coventional conventional checks such as Guzzlord and Slowbro, (RC) while also having an easier time dealing with Rhydon and Steelix. Choice Specs lets Mesprit act as a wallbreaker, setting itself apart from other wallbreakers with its access to Ice Beam and Grass-type coverage to threaten popular Stealth Rock setters such as Steelix and Piloswine. This does come with the risk of being more easily Pursuit trapped by the likes of Sneasel or turned into setup fodder for Incineroar.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Dark-types**: Houndoom outspeeds Mesprit and doesn't fear any coverage move Mesprit is able to throw at it, letting it get a free set up opportunity if it switches in on any move, (RC) but besides U-turn. Sneasel can also Pursuit trap Mesprit if its Colbur Berry has been burned used up prior, but otherwise is a bit shaky because it can't directly switch in due to the threat of being pivoted on with U-turn. Malamar is able to use Mesprit as set up setup fodder, shrugging off any attack it throws at it besides the rare Signal Beam.

**Set-(RH)up Sweepers**: Incineroar and Klinklang are able to use Mesprit as set up setup fodder by virtue of their typing and can proceed to significantly threaten the rest of Mesprit's team.

**Ghost-types**: Faster Ghost-types such as Mismagius, Rotom, and Haunter threaten Mesprit with their super effective Ghost-type STAB moves, with Mismagius in particular being able to use Mesprit to set up Nasty Plot or Taunt it to prevent it from setting up Stealth Rock.

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[OVERVIEW]

Mesprit is a very niche Pokemon, setting itself apart from other Psychic-types in the tier with its access to both Healing Wish and Stealth Rock. Unlike Uxie, Mesprit has the coverage and power it needs in order to deter Xatu from switching in, letting it set up Stealth Rock without needing Pursuit support. Mesprit also sports decent all-around bulk, letting it be a one-time check to a myriad of foes if needed. However, Mesprit's mediocre Speed leaves it vulnerable to various Pokemon such as Sneasel, Rotom, and Whimsicott, limiting its use versus more fast-paced teams.

[SET]
name: Offensive Support
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Healing Wish
item: Colbur Berry
ability: Levitate
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Stealth Rock is the most important move in the game and Mesprit is an effective user of the move thanks to its decent Speed and ability to threaten Xatu unlike other setters such as Steelix. Psyshock is Mesprit's best STAB move, as Psychic does significantly less damage to Cryogonal in particular. Ice Beam is Mesprit's best coverage option for threatening Xatu that attempt to switch in on it setting as it sets up Stealth Rock, (AC) and it also hits Pokemon such as Guzzlord. Finally, Healing Wish provides great utility in bringing a weakened teammate back to full at the cost of Mesprit. U-turn is also an option to ensure Mesprit isn't helpless versus Sneasel and is able to maintain momentum. Signal Beam has merit in hitting Pokemon such as Sneasel and Malamar.

Set Details
========

The given EV spread maximizes Mesprit's offensive capabilities, ensuring that it does not remain passive against most teams. A Modest nature is used over a Timid nature for additional damage on certain targets such as Xatu and Whimsicott, notably OHKOing the latter with Ice Beam after Stealth Rock. However, using a Timid nature is also an option to let Mesprit Speed tie with Medicham and Gallade. Colbur Berry lets Mesprit effectively check Fighting-types such as Hariyama and Hitmonlee and also has use in allowing Mesprit it to escape from Pursuit one time.

Usage Tips
========

During the early stages of the game, Mesprit's aim should be to get up Stealth Rock as soon as possible. If the opposing team has Xatu, it's best to avoid the use the of Stealth Rock and instead predict it to switch in by 2HKOing and 2HKO it with Ice Beam. The key is trying to win the mind game versus Xatu to ensure Mesprit cripples it significantly and gets up Stealth Rock successfully. When at full HP, Mesprit can also be used to switch into the likes of Hariyama, Passimian, and Hitmonlee; be wary of U-turn in Passimian's case, though. In situations where If Mesprit is no longer useful or in situations where it's is KOed by Pursuit upon switching out, it's best to use Healing Wish in order to bring a teammate back to peak condition in order to gain some initiative.

Team Options
========

Mesprit is most effective on more offensive teams, so setup sweepers such as Samurott, Klinklang, and Incineroar make great teammates, with each one being able to threaten some of Mesprit's checks. All of them are able to take advantage of a Sneasel locked into Pursuit and get an easy setup opportunity. Whimsicott checks most Dark-types and also breaks past Slowbro, which walls Mesprit otherwise. Decidueye also makes for a good teammate, as it threatens Slowbro and appreciates Healing Wish giving it another chance at breaking through teams. Wallbreakers such as Dhelmise and Vikavolt are typically worn down quickly, so they appreciate extra opportunities to wreak havoc on the opposing team.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

A lure set using Z-Dazzling Gleam Dazzling Gleam + Fairium Z with various coverage options such as Grass Knot and Thunderbolt lets Mesprit beat conventional checks such as Guzzlord and Slowbro while also having an easier time dealing with Rhydon and Steelix. Choice Specs lets Mesprit act as a wallbreaker, setting itself apart from other wallbreakers with its access to Ice Beam and Grass-type coverage to threaten popular Stealth Rock setters such as Steelix and Piloswine. This does come with the risk of being more easily Pursuit trapped by the likes of Sneasel or turned into setup fodder for Incineroar.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Dark-types**: Houndoom outspeeds Mesprit and doesn't fear any coverage move Mesprit is able to throw at it, letting it get a free set up setup opportunity if it switches in on any move besides U-turn. Sneasel can also Pursuit trap Mesprit if its Colbur Berry has been used up prior, but otherwise it is a bit shaky because it can't directly switch in due to the threat of being pivoted on with U-turn. Malamar is able to use Mesprit as setup fodder, shrugging off any attack it throws at it besides the rare Signal Beam.

**Setup Sweepers**: Incineroar and Klinklang are able to use Mesprit as setup fodder by virtue of their typing and can proceed to significantly threaten the rest of Mesprit's team.

**Ghost-types**: Faster Ghost-types such as Mismagius, Rotom, and Haunter threaten Mesprit with their super effective STAB moves, with Mismagius in particular being able to use Mesprit to set up Nasty Plot or Taunt it to prevent it from setting up Stealth Rock.
 

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