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[READ ME] Tips for Simple Hack Checks

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by TheMantyke, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. TheMantyke

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    Hello,

    With the release of Pokebank (with its lackluster hack checking service) and Powersaves, Kalos/Hoenn/Alola are no longer hack free regions. What's worse is that many users here are unaware of the constraints of Pokemon legality meaning hacked Pokemon can spread very quickly.

    This thread will serve two purposes. The first is to provide some pointers on hacked Pokemon so you can spot a hacked Pokemon before you offer it / land yourself in hot water for spreading hacked Pokemon. The second is to provide a blacklist of common Pokemon that have been spread rather far from unaware traders. Please remove any Pokemon featured here from your thread immediately. If we catch you offering Pokemon on this list after a prolonged amount of time after they've been added to the list, your thread may suffer some sort of penalty.

    Smogon adheres to the following definition:

    • Hacked: The Pokemon was created/edited via the use of any external device to modify the game and the game data in any sort of way. This includes any Pokemon bred from them. For more information on the topic, see the Wi-Fi rules.
    Hacks are not allowed on Smogon. Don't trade them; don't request them.

    General Rules of Thumb for Distinguishing Hacked Pokemon:

    • Perfect and/or shiny Pokemon obtained in a trade with an unknown trainer (i.e. from the GTS/Wonder Trade/Passerby) stand a reasonable chance of being hacked, so it's safest to assume they are. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.
    • Possible =/= Legitimate.
      • If the odds of getting the Pokemon are worse than the chance of being eaten by a shark while in a plane, it's probably hacked. Save yourself the headache later, assume it's hacked, and don't trade it.
        • RNG abuse is the exception to this, so some common sense goes a long way. See first tip.
    Gen 7:
    • Sun and Moon have eliminated many of the illegal ball combinations from previous generations. For a list of the possible ball combinations, see TheMantyke's table.
    • Beldum is not legal in a heavy ball.
    • Nidoran M and F as well as Volbeat and Illumise can't pass Pokeballs as freely since they're different Pokedex #s. This means that stuff like Moon Ball Sheer Force Nidoking and Sports Ball Prankster Volbeat are Illegal.
    • Shellos can inherit Pokeballs from different color Shellos.
    • Beast Ball Gen 7 Starters are illegal.
    • The following Pokemon cannot be shiny:
      • Cosmog/Cosmoem
      • Solgaleo
      • Lunala
      • Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Lele
      • Ultra Beasts (Nihilego, Buzzwole, Phermosa, Xurkitree, Celesteela, Kartana, Guzzlord, Necrozma)
      • Marshadow
      • Magearna
    • Tapu Koko can be shiny via event only.
    Gen 6:
    • The following Pokemon cannot be shiny:
      • Zygarde
      • Hoopa
    • Arceus can be shiny as of Generation 6 Event – M18 Désert (Désser) City Arceus. This Arceus has multiple wondercards one of which is forced shiny while the others are normal Arceus and have one of the 17 type-plates associated with it and the 18th being a normal Arceus holding a Silk Scarf. NO ARCEUS OBTAINED FROM GENERATION 5 AND UNDER CAN BE LEGALLY SHINY.
    • Diancie can be shiny by the (Japan only) Pokémon Centre Diancie event.
    • Yveltal and Xerneas can be shiny as of a Pokémon X, Y and Z tie-in giveaway. Any which were caught are still hacked.
    • Legendaries caught in X and Y cannot be shiny.
    • Deoxys, Rayquaza, Kyogre, and Groudon cannot be shiny and have the Pentagon.
    • Shiny Reshiram and Zekrom are only obtainable in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. Previous games had a shiny check in place for them.
    • Super-size Pumpkaboo line is available with hidden ability (Insomnia) only in a Cherish Ball via Spooky 2014 Super Size Pumpkaboo event. It was also possible to get a wondercard that also provided a female Pumpkaboo.
    • Pikachu can have Endeavor via a Generation 6 event.
    • Pokemon caught or bred on X and Y have "memories" that are checkable by an NPC outside the Anistar Pokemon Center, Pokemon brought over from previous generations (including those that have been hacked to look like they are from Kalos) and 6th gen events do not have memories and will say "The Pokemon seems to have a good memory, but it doesn't seem to be able to remember...".
    • Zoroark may have Sludge Bomb via a Generation 6 event.
    • Gengar (shiny) may have Sludge Wave via a Generation 6 event.
    • Regarding apricorn balls:
      • Only Pokemon obtainable in the Generation IV games Heart Gold and Soul Silver can be legitimately captured in an Apricorn ball. Transferring those Pokemon to Generation VI and breeding them will allow the offspring to have an Apricorn ball, along with any egg move combination, but they cannot have their hidden ability.
        • This restriction has changed in Gen 7. See here.
      • Using Pokemon that have an Apricorn ball (or any other ball) hacked on as a parent, and breeding it in Generation VI is not legitimate, and is a hack, even though it was legitimately obtained through breeding.
    Gen 5:
    • There are no restrictions on the IVs and nature of most 5th gen wonder cards, including most of the competitively relevant ones. However, nearly all are locked to not be shiny.
    • Shiny Reshiram and Zekrom are only obtainable in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. Previous games had a shiny check in place for them.
    • Pokemon from the Dream World, Dream Radar, and Hidden Grottoes in the 5th gen games cannot be shiny.
    Gen 4:
    • Only 4 natures are possible for 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon caught in generations 3 & 4 (exceptions below). These natures are calm, docile, modest, and timid.
      • Wild Pokemon with variable genders (including Heatran) caught in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum have 7 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, hasty, modest, quirky, sassy, and timid. Wild Pokemon with variable genders caught in Heart Gold and Soul Silver have 6 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, modest, quiet, sassy, and timid.
      • Shinies obtained through the Pokeradar in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum can have any IV/nature combination, but it still requires ID abuse, and is considered one of the most difficult types of Generation 4 abuse. In most cases, unless it's someone who's proven themselves capable of doing such an abuse, it's pretty safe to assume it's a hack.
    • Generation 4 wonder card events may have any combination of IVs and nature. However, almost every generation 4 event is locked to not be shiny. The only exceptions are Manaphy who can be hatched shiny by transferring the egg to another save file, caught Shaymin and Darkrai from the Platinum Member Card and Oak's Letter events, and always shiny events (Eevee, Pichu, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, and Milotic).
    • Wild Arceus from Generation 4 are not obtainable as the event was never released.
    Gen 3:
    • Only 4 natures are possible for 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon caught in generations 3 & 4 (exceptions below). These natures are calm, docile, modest, and timid.
      • Wild Pokemon (excluding Legendaries) from Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, and Emerald have 9 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, careful, docile, hardy, lax, modest, naive, rash, and timid.
    • Generation 3 wonder card style events are difficult to RNG. Extremespeed Zigzagoon can only be RNG’d for shininess and not IV’s or nature. In most cases, unless it's someone who's proven themselves capable of doing such an abuse for any of these events, it's pretty safe to assume it's a hack.
    • The “Wish” event Pokemon is virtually nonexistent. Any you see offered are almost certainly hacked.
    • A shiny Mew must be Japanese, from Hoenn, and at least level 30 as the only way to obtain it was through the Old Sea Chart in Emerald given out exclusively in Japan.
    • The 2011 event Celebi should have the OT WIN2011. OT GAMESTP Celebi is from an unreleased event obtained by ripping an unreleased wondercard rom and are hacked.
    • Shiny Deoxys can only be obtained through the 3rd gen event item.
    Gen 1 (RBY Virtual Console games):
    • Pokemon imported from these games will have their Hidden Abilities.
    • Any Pokemon (except the event Mew) not encountered in the grass/surfing can be shiny when imported. See here.
    Other:
    • No Shadow Pokemon from Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness can be shiny.
    • A Pokemon that does not normally have a premier ribbon attached from a special event is hacked. This is the result of improperly cloning through Pokecheck. However, this does not invalidate the legality of proper clones.
    Feel free to PM a Wi-Fi moderator if you notice any errors on this list or wish for a new rule to be added.

    Please use this form to fill out information:
    Code:
    Language:
    Species:
    OT:
    ID No.:
    IVs:
    EVs (optional):
    Ability:
    Pokemon's name:
    Gender:
    Level:
    Pokeball:
    Shiny?:
    Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify):
    Moves:
    Nature:
    Region of origin:
    Characteristic:
    Ribbons:
    Other comments (optional):
    How to fill out the template (open)

    Language: Possible languages are: ENG, FRE, GER, ITA, JPN, KOR, SPA. If no language appears at the top it is the same as the game it is currently on.
    Species: The species of Pokemon. If it's a special form/forme please include that too.
    OT: The name of the Original Trainer, for foreign characters you can't type just put the number of characters.
    ID No.: The ID number of the original trainer.
    IVs: The exact IVs of all 6 stats (please do not include ranges). Use an IV Calculator such as Metalkid's if you need to.
    EVs (optional): The EVs, if you do not know the EVs you can check by saving and using a Reset Bag in Super Training (reset to get both EVs and the Reset Bag back).
    Ability: The Ability the Pokemon has (does not matter if an Ability Capsule has been used). For Giratina-O and Therian Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus please convert to Giratina-A/Incarnate forme first.
    Pokemon's name: The current name/nickname of the Pokemon, for foreign characters you can't type just put the number of characters.
    Gender: Is it a boy, or is it a girl? (or neither)
    Level: The current level of the Pokemon.
    Pokeball: The Pokeball the Pokemon is in.
    Shiny?: Yes or No.
    Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Yes (and specify which), or No.
    Moves: The moves the Pokemon currently knows.
    Nature: The nature of the Pokemon.
    Region of origin: Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Sinnoh/Unova/Kalos/Alola, also include if it was a "fateful encounter".
    Characteristic: The characteristic of the Pokemon.
    Ribbons: Any Ribbons the Pokemon has.
    Other comments (optional): Anything else about the Pokemon you might want to say. If you use external programs to view hidden data such as PID, SID, and game of origin include them here.

    /me pet Dark Ray


    Possible Pokeball + Pokemon combinations:
    Since the GTS doesn't have check for illegal combinations involving Poké Balls, I've compiled a list of various ball legality combinations. Impossible combinations are not allowed to be traded here due to the no hacked parents rule, which can be traced in this instance. This list is for Pokémon bred in 6th gen only - all previous generation Pokémon can only be bred in the standard Poké Ball. An updated list for 7th gen can be found here. Listed in alphabetical order by the first Pokémon in the family in the Pokédex.

    Hidden Ability Unova (Oshawott, Tepig, Snivy line) and Johto (Chikorita, Totodile, Cyndaquil line) starters are available in Pokeball only.

    Nidoran♀ and Illumise allow for Nidoran♂ and Volbeat respectively for the category they're listed in. Master and Cherish Balls cannot be passed on during breeding.

    Standard Ball set:
    Poké, Great, Ultra, Premier, Repeat, Timer, Nest, Net, Dive, Luxury, Heal, Quick, Dusk.

    Everything that can be captured except male-only and genderless species.

    Apricorn Ball set (open)
    Level, Lure, Moon, Friend, Love, Heavy, Fast
    Everything that can be captured in HG/SS, excluding those only available through PokéWalker/Bug Catching Contest. These are all incompatible with their Hidden Ability.

    Abra
    Absol
    Aipom
    Barboach
    Bellsprout
    Bidoof
    Buizel
    Buneary
    Burmy
    Carnivine
    Caterpie
    Chansey
    Chatot
    Cherubi
    Chimecho
    Chinchou
    Clamperl
    Clefairy
    Combee
    Corsola
    Cubone
    Delibird
    Diglett
    Doduo
    Dratini
    Drowzee
    Dunsparce
    Ekans
    Electabuzz
    Exeggcute
    Farfetch'd
    Gastly
    Geodude
    Girafarig
    Gligar
    Goldeen
    Grimer
    Growlithe
    Gulpin
    Heracross
    Hoothoot
    Hoppip
    Horsea
    Houndour
    Jigglypuff
    Jynx
    Kangaskhan
    Koffing
    Krabby
    Kricketot
    Lapras
    Larvitar
    Ledyba
    Lickitung
    Luvdisc
    Machop
    Magikarp
    Magmar
    Makuhita
    Mankey
    Mantine
    Mareep
    Marill
    Mawile
    Meditite
    Meowth
    Miltank
    Minun
    Misdreavus
    Mr. Mime
    Murkrow
    Natu
    Nidoran♀
    Numel
    Oddish
    Onix
    Paras
    Phanpy
    Pidgey
    Pikachu
    Pineco
    Plusle
    Poliwag
    Ponyta
    Poochyena
    Psyduck
    Qwilish
    Ralts
    Rattata
    Relicanth
    Remoraid
    Rhyhorn
    Roselia
    Sableye
    Sandshrew
    Seedot
    Seel
    Sentret
    Shellder
    Shinx
    Shroomish
    Shuckle
    Skarmory
    Slakoth
    Slowpoke
    Slugma
    Smeargle
    Sneasel
    Snorlax
    Snubbull
    Spearow
    Spinarak
    Spinda
    Spoink
    Stantler
    Starly
    Sudowoodo
    Sunkern
    Swablu
    Swinub
    Taillow
    Tangela
    Teddiursa
    Tentacool
    Venonat
    Vulpix
    Weedle
    Whismur
    Wingull
    Wobbuffet
    Wooper
    Wurmple
    Yanma
    Zigzagoon
    Zubat
    Safari (open)
    Safari Ball + Hidden Ability is not legitimately possible.

    Abra
    Aipom
    Aron
    Bagon
    Barboach
    Bellsprout
    Bidoof
    Buizel
    Cacnea
    Carnivine
    Carvanha
    Chansey
    Chimecho
    Clefairy
    Corphish
    Croagunk
    Cubone
    Diglett
    Doduo
    Dratini
    Drowzee
    Duskull
    Ekans
    Electabuzz
    Electrike
    Exeggcute
    Farfetch'd
    Gastly
    Geodude
    Gible
    Girafarig
    Gligar
    Goldeen
    Grimer
    Gulpin
    Heracross
    Hippopotas
    Hoothoot
    Hoppip
    Houndour
    Illumise
    Jigglypuff
    Kangaskhan
    Kecleon
    Koffing
    Krabby
    Lapras
    Larvitar
    Ledyba
    Lickitung
    Lotad
    Machop
    Magikarp
    Magmar
    Mareep
    Marill
    Meditite
    Miltank
    Misdreavus
    Mr. Mime
    Murkrow
    Natu
    Nidoran♀
    Nosepass
    Oddish
    Onix
    Pachirisu
    Paras
    Phanpy
    Pidgey
    Pikachu
    Pineco
    Pinsir
    Poliwag
    Ponyta
    Psyduck
    Rattata
    Remoraid
    Rhyhorn
    Riolu
    Roselia
    Sandshrew
    Scyther
    Seedot
    Sentret
    Seviper
    Shinx
    Shroomish
    Shuckle
    Shuppet
    Skorupi
    Slakoth
    Slowpoke
    Smeargle
    Snubbull
    Spearow
    Spheal
    Spinarak
    Spinda
    Stantler
    Starly
    Sunkern
    Surskit
    Tangela
    Torkoal
    Trapinch
    Tropius
    Venonat
    Wobbuffet
    Wooper
    Yanma
    Zangoose
    Zigzagoon
    Zubat
    Sport (open)
    Sport Ball + Hidden Ability is not legitimately possible

    Caterpie
    Combee
    Illumise
    Kricketot
    Nincada
    Paras
    Pinsir
    Scyther
    Venonat
    Weedle
    Wurmple
    Dream (open)
    Certain Pokémon didn't have a Hidden Ability in 5th gen; they will be noted. Anything in this list can also be captured in the standard ball set (notably Fossil Pokémon).

    Abra
    Absol
    Aerodactyl
    Aipom
    Alomomola
    Anorith
    Aron
    Audino
    Axew
    Bagon
    Barboach
    Basculin (both colours)
    Bellsprout
    Bidoof
    Buizel
    Buneary
    Burmy
    Cacnea
    Carnivine
    Carvanha
    Castform
    Caterpie
    Chansey
    Chatot
    Cherubi
    Chimecho
    Chinchou
    Clamperl
    Clefairy
    Combee
    Corphish
    Corsola
    Cottonee
    Cranidos
    Croagunk
    Cubone
    Delibird
    Diglett
    Doduo
    Dratini
    Drifloon
    Drilbur
    Drowzee
    Druddigon
    Ducklett
    Dunsparce
    Durant
    Duskull - No Dream + HA
    Dwebble
    Eevee
    Ekans
    Electabuzz
    Electrike
    Elgyem
    Emolga
    Exeggcute
    Farfetch'd
    Feebas
    Finneon
    Gastly
    Geodude
    Gible
    Girafarig
    Glameow
    Gligar
    Goldeen
    Grimer
    Growlithe
    Gulpin
    Heatmor
    Heracross
    Hippopotas
    Hoothoot
    Hoppip
    Horsea
    Houndour
    Illumise
    Jigglypuff
    Joltik
    Jynx
    Kabuto
    Kangaskhan
    Karrablast
    Kecleon - No Dream + HA
    Koffing
    Krabby
    Kricketot
    Lapras
    Larvitar
    Ledyba
    Lickitung
    Lileep
    Lotad
    Luvdisc
    Machop
    Magikarp
    Magmar
    Makuhita
    Mankey
    Mantine
    Maractus
    Mareep
    Marill
    Mawile
    Meditite
    Meowth
    Miltank
    Minun - No Dream + HA
    Misdreavus
    Mr. Mime
    Munna
    Murkrow
    Natu
    Nidoran♀
    Nincada
    Nosepass
    Numel
    Oddish
    Omanyte
    Onix
    Pachirsu
    Paras
    Pawniard
    Petilil
    Phanpy
    Pidgey
    Pidove
    Pineco
    Pinsir
    Plusle - No Dream + HA
    Poliwag
    Ponyta
    Poochyena
    Psyduck
    Qwilfish
    Ralts
    Rattata
    Relicanth
    Remoraid
    Rhyhorn
    Riolu
    Roggenrola
    Roselia
    Sableye
    Sandile
    Sandshrew
    Scraggy
    Scyther
    Seedot
    Seel
    Sentret
    Seviper
    Shellder
    Shellos (both East and West sea)
    Shelmet
    Shieldon
    Shinx
    Shroomish
    Shuckle
    Shuppet
    Sigilyph
    Skarmory
    Skitty
    Skorupi
    Slakoth
    Slowpoke
    Slugma
    Smeargle
    Sneasel
    Snorlax
    Snorunt
    Snubbull
    Solosis
    Spearow
    Spheal
    Spinarak
    Spinda
    Spiritomb
    Spoink
    Stantler
    Starly
    Stunfisk
    Stunky
    Sudowoodo
    Sunkern
    Surskit
    Swablu
    Swinub
    Taillow
    Tangela
    Teddiursa
    Tentacool
    Timburr
    Tirtouga
    Togepi
    Torkoal
    Trapinch
    Tropius
    Tympole
    Vanillite
    Venipede
    Venonat
    Vulpix
    Wailmer
    Weedle
    Whismur
    Wingull
    Wobbuffet
    Wooper
    Wurmple
    Yanma
    Zangoose
    Zigzagoon
    Zubat
    Poké Ball only (open)
    These Pokémon lines can't be captured as a female in any game at this time. All genderless and male-only species also fall in this category.

    Amaura
    Archen
    Chimchar
    Mudkip
    Oshawott
    Piplup
    Pumpkaboo (Super Sized with its Hidden Ability Insomnia)
    Snivy
    Tepig
    Torchic
    Treecko
    Turtwig
    Tyrunt
    3rd gen Poké Balls only (open)
    These Pokémon can only be captured by the following balls: Poké, Great, Ultra, Premier, Repeat, Timer, Nest, Net, Dive, Luxury.

    Chikorita
    Cyndaquil
    Totodile


    Common hacked OTs:
    Pokecheck's unofficial blacklist, maintained by moderator Invictus.
    AuSLove.tv

    Thanks to the following users for contributing towards this:
    - Dark Ray
    - Hozu
    - TheMantyke
    - Esmeya
    - ProjectTitan313
    - shiny finder

    Last updated: 25/07/2017: by shiny finder.

    Change log (open)

    • 25/07/2017: by shiny finder:
      • Reorganized thread.
      • Updated form.
      • Added sections for Gen 7 and RBY VC.
      • Updated "common tips".
      • Added Sludge Wave Gengar event in Gen 6.
      • Added AusLove.tv to list of common hacked OTs.
    • 29/12/2015: by .com:
      • Removed Diancie from cannot be shiny list, and added entry about relevant event.
    • 29/11/2015: by .com:
      • Added shiny Xerneas and Yveltal to the list.
      • Added note about Endeavour Pikachu.
      • Added note about Sludge Bomb Zoroark.
      • Added Diancie and Hoopa to cannot be shiny list.
    • 4/10/2015: by Esmeya:
      • Updated with relevant info based on discoveries of Colosseum/XD RNG, Hoenn release (a few), and a few new events.
      • Cleared general errors.
      • Deleted an entry that was not relevant to hack checking.
    • 11/03/2015: by Esmeya:
      • Arceus can be shiny, only by Generation 6 event (can also be non-shiny from the same event).
      • Super Sized, HA Pumpkaboo is available in Cherish Ball (can't be bred), by Generation 6 event.
      • HA Johto and Unova starters (Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile; and Oshawott, Tepig and Snivy lines) are available in Poké Ball only, by Generation 6, Pokémon Bank event.
    • 17/03/2015: by .com:
      • Added "Pentagon?" to the form.
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 25, 2017
  2. Albus

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    I'd like to point out that also anything with the OT PCApp is hacked, as it belongs to a known hacker on Pokecheck; i saw a legend or two with that OT in a couple of trade threads.
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  3. ScarfGren

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    Actually, from what I know on the OT "PCApp", it's the default OT used on Pokemon created through the Poke Creator App so yes, Pokemon with that OT are hacked.
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  4. riddlinkid

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    I thought it used to be required that the OT and origins of all pokemon in trade threads had to be provided in order to operate a trade thread, as to prevent problems like this from occurring. I see very few threads on here anymore that are like that.
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  5. TheMantyke

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    All Pokemon that you did not breed or capture yourself are required to list this information. Pokemon you have captured or bred yourself may ignore this. If you discover any trade threads that have Pokemon the owners obviously did not capture or breed themselves, contact me or another Wi-Fi moderator and we will inform them to update their information or face a lock.
  6. Age of Kings

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    Just a small correction, there were shiny Wondercards events from Japan, all movie tie-ins iirc (shiny Hydreigon, Genesect, and I think Golurk), however these are set to always be shiny. I find your wording somewhat vague on this, I would mention that Wondercards in general are either always shiny or never shiny. It's implied, but not explicit in the OP.

    And honestly, if you are a good trader, you should have registered your save file on Pokecheck and be prepared to share the legality analysis for your own stuff if there is doubt (except for events). There are a lot of shady people around and any form of transparency is good.

    As a final note....fuck all of you people with swaths of banked mons. I am jealous lol.
  7. TyVip

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    Legends :
    Timid Heatran w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : Michael, ID : 23731) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon. I have one of this and yes it has a premier ribbon.

    Calm Heatran w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : Hyoga, ID : 17878) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

    Timid Manaphy, Timid Latios w/ Defog (OT : Mat, ID : 62971) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

    Timid Zapdos w/HP Ice/Heat Wave (OT : a korean name, ID : 22416) Reason : FRLG isn't RNG abusable yet

    Calm Celebi (OT : WIN2011, ID : 02211) Reason : Pure hack, lacks the event ribbon. I have one of this and yes it doesn't have a ribbion.

    Timid Celebi w/ SR (OT : GAMESTP, ID : 02271) Reason : Unreleased event wondercard

    Naive Landorus-Therian (Sand Force Landorus) w/ HP Ice (OT : Pietro, ID : 19364) Reason : Pokémon without HA caught in a dream ball

    Naive Landorus-Therian (Sheer Force Landorus) w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : MISTERr, ID : 41725) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon . I have one of this and yes it has a premier ribbon.

    Adamant Landorus-Therian (Sheer Force Landorus) (OT : ホワイト(Howaito), ID : 44864) Reason : isn't in a dream ball

    Shiny Timid Sheer Force Landorus w/ HP Ice (OT : Justin, ID : 50582) Reason : Dream World Pokémon aren't shiny, OT is a known hacker, has a Premier Ribbon

    Jolly Terrakion w/ SR (OT : Kenny, ID : 14529) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

    Timid Latias w/ Defog (OT : Smogon, ID : 11465) Reason : incorrect SID/PID

    Timid Latios w/ Trick (OT : Kirk, ID : 01916) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

    Timid Latios w/ HP Fire (OT : Gold, ID : 54972) Reason : invalid IV spread for gen 4

    Adamant Kyurem (OT : ひめ (Hime), ID : 32760) Reason : English region

    Lonely Kyurem w/ Earth Power (OT : Rishik, ID : 14170) Reason : OT used pokégen for all his mons

    Timid Deoxys w/SR (OT : erics, ID : 06789) Reason : Method 1 RNG in emerald doesn't allow perfect shiny spreads

    Rash Raikou w/ HP Ice, Aurasphere (OT : クラウン(Kuraun), ID : 06180) Reason : lacks event ribbon . I have one of this and yes it doesn't have a ribbon.

    Bold Suicune (OT : nazo, ID : 32760) Reason : Impossible IV spread on HGSS . I have one of this and it seems unlegit to me.

    Timid Mew w/ Nasty Plot (OT : TPC, ID : 10160) Reason : wrong OT

    credit goes to crashteamalphing
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  8. Commander F

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    How shall understand if legends from my tread are legiit or not? I don't want to get "lier" reputation. ._.
  9. crashteamalphing

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    Well I wanna bring a correction regarding the bold suicune. The reason it's hacked is actually because it is from 3rd gen and 6IV (Kanto is its region of origin).
  10. Age of Kings

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    Don't trade stuff that isn't yours if you're not sure. I would assume your own stuff is legit, right? :)
  11. Commander F

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    Ofcause(if you are about non-legendary pokemons), I already deleted Raikou from my shop, coz it's from Hoenn. ._.
  12. Agonist

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    It should be noted that the Latias with the OT Kirk, and the Manaphy with the OT Mat are only hacked because of the premier ribbon. The originals both belong to known RNG abusers (cannibal and Bond697, respectively).
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  13. TyVip

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    i actually have the 6iv darkal from MAT :p . Do you want me to edit that ?
  14. Agonist

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    It's up to you.
  15. musicmeister

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    It should also be noted that shiny 31/31/31/31/31/31 imposter ditto that came from previous gen is definitely hacked. There are some floating around.
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    I have a large selection of Gen 5 pokemon on my trade thread...could someone let me know if some are known hacks? I can't really tell. My thread link is in my sig. I'll remove any that are known to be hacked, so I don't trade them off.
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    Sorry for the dumb question but I thought Shiny Jirachi is actually possible? Or is it not?
  18. musicmeister

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    Could be ability capsuled?
  19. Nyuu-Chan353

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    I don't think the Capsule works with HA's. Like Torchic, can't capsule into Speed Boost if Blaze, idk.
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    The WISHMKR one can be shiny, yeah, but Bank doesn't let it through for some reason, I think.
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    Shiny Jirachi is possible (Colosseum Bonus disc only) It can't be RNG'd and Nintendo apparently refuses to believe it exists because it wasn't supposed to. Very much sadness.
  22. musicmeister

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    Her post says in a dream ball with no HA ability. I'm pretty sure ability capsule can change HA to normal ability.
  23. Agonist

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    Nope. HA can't be changed to normal.
  24. Saamid

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    I just wanted to ask if the following pokemon is legal

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    Mat 19849
    Nature: Timid
    IV Spread: 31/31/31/31/31/31
    Came from Sinnoh

    If further information is needed, let me know.
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    That's answered here (kind of, I'm apparently blind, but the information still applies). If it has no Premier Ribbon then it's fine.
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