Finals The World Cup of Pokémon 2017 - Finals [Won by Team USA East]

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Here we are at the finals stage. Three-time champions US East vs. first-time finalists Europe. Will US East claim their fourth World Cup trophy, or will Europe become the tournament's first ever European winners?

Here's a link to the spreadsheet with Round 1 standings and general information.



1. US East (6) vs. 7. Europe (3)

SM OU 1: ABR vs. Pearl
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- vs. MetalGro$$
SM OU 3: PDC vs. Ban Manaphy
SM OU 4: TDK vs. Blackoblivion
SM OU 5: John vs. R!cardo
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini vs. Jimmy Turtwig
BW2 OU: Jayde vs. ZoroDark
DPP OU: august vs. Void
ADV OU: Bad Ass vs. We Three Kings
GSC OU: BKC vs. choolio


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Standard Tournament Rules and Procedures:
On... Sportsmanship

Note the sportsmanship infraction may be used liberally this WCoP, and any unsportsmanlike conduct on the forums, in #wcop / #pokemon / any of the semiofficial tier channels, or in opposing wcop team channels (I won't infract for you being a dick in your own wcop team channel unless the situation is so extreme I feel I absolutely have to make an exception (consider basically any masterclass interaction ever)), will be grounds for an infraction. We encourage you to play semi-aggressively, but don't be a masterclass.

~ Aldaron

On... Scheduling Matches

I'm sure plenty of you have come across coin flipping / who to activity drama while scheduling matches. I'm here to reduce the arbitrary element associated with some of these decisions. It is entirely your decision to adhere to these STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS, but note that if you choose not to, I'll most likely ignore any pleading from your end and default you to a coin flip, regardless of what you claim is your irc or forum activity. By signing up for this tournament, you are agreeing to this condition, that adhering to what I outline will protect you from coinflips / activity and that not adhering to it will subject you to coinflips / activity regardless of your proposed justification.
YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR VM WALL IF YOU WISH TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS IS HOW ALL OFFICIAL SCHEDULING WILL BE HANDLED.

Once that round's thread is posted, you have up to 48 hours to contact your opponent ON HIS VM WALL and mention your timezone and exactly what dates, what time ranges you are available, and where you will battle. Note that the default accepted sim and server is the official server on Showdown. You must provide at least 3 different time ranges at least 48 hours from the timestamp of your message, with at least 2 that are 24-hours apart from each other. The minimum and maximum length for 1 time range is 30 minutes, and the minimum difference between the 3 required time ranges is 3 hours. If you give 3 time ranges that stick with this policy, you can give any additional time ranges at any time you please.

NOTE THAT THIS SCENARIO INVOLVES RESPONSE DYNAMICS; THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL CONTACT FIRST AND SOMEONE WHO RESPOND...THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT FOR BOTH OF YOU TO ASSUME TO YOU CAN BE FIRST CONTACTS...WHOEVER CONTACTS FIRST IS THE FIRST, AND THE OTHER DEFAULTS TO THE RESPONDER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME OF YOU ARE DUMB.

Once your opponent has contacted you, you now have up until 72 hours after the round's thread has been posted (NOT after your opponent's message) to respond with times that are good for you. What this means is that if both of you spend the maximum time contacting and responding, you should have back and forth collaboration at a maximum of 72 hours after the round has been posted, with both parties given an additional 24 hours to prepare for the battle should it be scheduled as soon as required. If none of the opponent's proposed time ranges are good for you, you must respond with alternative time ranges.

The first opponent now has X hours to prepare for the battle (if the second opponent agreed to some time) or 24 hours to contact a TD if, for whatever reason, this second set of time ranges does not suit the first opponent. Note this should be an absolute last measure and that more often than not, the TDs will likely force one (or both) sides to sub out.

Once a time is agreed upon, please make a message on your opponent's vm wall between 10 minutes and 1 second before the agreed upon time and say you are ready to battle and then get to agreed upon location (regardless of whether or not your opponent sends you a response vm). Please protect yourself by making this message, as it makes decisions much easier. You will be required to be wait for your opponent for the duration of the time range.

If neither of you contact each other before 48 hours after the thread has been posted, you're both opening yourself up to a potential coin flip. If I look at the situation, I might just determine I'm going to sub both of you out, coin flip you, or whatever based on however I'm feeling at that moment. Don't leave yourself and your team vulnerable to this.

Just because at anytime one of the responders does not respond within the given range does not give you automatic activity win credentials. If they don't contact at all on your vm wall up until 48 hours before the end of the round (note, I'm not going to take irc or sim messages as evidence due to how easily they can be doctored...so if you want to protect yourself, stick to the vm messages), then you obviously have activity win justification. Note to team captains, if one of your players does not contact all his opponents before 48 hours before the end of the round, I will FORCE a sub, no questions asked. You WILL contact your opponent in a timely manner. However, if they do contact you at all after the suggested response time and before 48 hours before the end of the round, you are required to respond before 24 hours before the end of the round with 2 1-hour time ranges at least 1 hour apart before the end of the round. The opponent, since he did not stick to the proposed response schedule, WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY AT ONE OF YOUR NEWLY SUGGESTED TIMES, so you have the advantage here. This obviously puts a bit of an emphasis on the last 48 hours of each round (as is standard operating procedure for most of our official team tournaments anyway), so I will try my best to keep the last 48 hours of the round as close to the majority of the weekend for as much of the world as I can.

If you follow all of these guidelines, you will a.) most likely get your match done with minimal issue or b.) protect yourself and your team from an undue coin flip or activity decision. Yes, I hate activity decisions in official tournaments. Yes, I will do my best to prevent activity decisions in the playoffs (the qualifying round is fair game however and I will have no problem issuing an activity call here), but don't push your luck.

Here is an example of how following this would work:

Round 1 thread is posted June 7, 2015 at 10:00PM. Its deadline is June 14, 2015 at 11:59PM. User A and User B are matched up. User A contacts User B on his vm wall on June 9, at 9:00 PM (47 hours after the thread was posted, so ok), and gives 4 time ranges: June 10, from 7:00-7:30 PM (22 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is only ok so long as at minimum 3 of the other proposed time ranges adhere to the requirements), June 11, from 9:00-9:30 PM (48 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is ok), June 12, from 6:00-6:30 PM (69 hours after timestamp of his message, so ok, but only 21 hours after the earliest time range that is 48 hours after the timestamp), and June 12, from 9:00-9:30 PM (72 hours after the timestamp, so ok, and 24 hours after a legal time range and 3 hours after another legal time range). The June 11 and both June 12 time ranges satisfy the requirements, so User A can propose his first June 10 time range as well. User B responds on June 10, at 8:00 PM (23 hours after User A contacted him, so ok), and picks June 11, at 9:00 PM to battle, which is ok because it is 24 hours after his own response.

You'll note I made most of my response ranges multiples of 24 hours, but also included 24 hours. This means I expect you to be able to check Smogon at least once a day. If that is not feasible, you put yourself at risk.

~ Aldaron

On... Disconnecting and timing out drama

Ah, the big beefcake. I'm going to go ahead and put this out there: we reserve the right to judge any individual match on a case by case basis, regardless of assumed precedence set. If you don't like that, you are welcome to not play. Be aware of this.

Also, to protect yourself as much as possible from DCs and timer issues, play on Showdown (because it has an at least semi reliable system of rejoining after a DC) and make a gentleman's agreement to not hit timer and not be hour a move dicks.

That said, here is the main way we will probably handle DCs / timing out:

To handle all DC cases...you're gonna submit your teams before the match. TeamSubmissions is an account made for the purpose of submitting teams to it. You don't have to submit, but if you do, you protect yourself from the opponent taking a win. If you do DC (and you can't rejoin the battle) and you haven't submitted your team, your opponent will have the right to take the win. Yes, I'll most likely make a judgment call if he is on his last turn with 1 pokemon at 5% and paralyzed and with you at 6 100% health pokemon, because the only way to lose this is to misclick multiple times. However, if you're at 6 100% pokemon and your opponent is at last pokemon 10% needing to crit flinch you 6 - 12 times for the win, I'll give him the win if you DC and haven't submitted your team.

I know people like philip7086 will beg me "to use common sense for a judgment call" for all cases and I would normally agree, but I am giving you all a 100% out by allowing you to submit your team. Basically, submit your team, and protect yourself and your team from any and all DCs. It's a simple procedure that removes almost all subjectivity from a decision regarding a DC. Unlike with the scheduling restrictions, all you have to do is submit the team your are using at anytime before the match takes place, and you'll have 100% protected yourself. Read this rule and understand this now before you join the tournament. Since I'm stating this now, I'm basically going to ignore you if you DC, didn't submit a team, and "had a guaranteed win." Expect it. Also note that I'm going to let the PLAYER (not the team), decide whether he is going to take the win or go another route (replay same moves, replay different teams, etc.).

To further ensure no funny business, if, in the case of a DC replay, there is any concern from either party about funny business, both parties have the right to request a screenshot of the current Pokemon's stats in battle. This is irrelevant for Showdown as you can simply rejoin a battle there, but PO allows you to see the currently out Pokemon's stats if you scroll over it with your mouse. Just hit PrntScrn (windows) while scrolling over it if requested by your opponent, preferably with proof that it is a screenshot of that actual battle (consider including the opponent's request in the battle screen in the screenshot).

Regarding time outs, they are a bit more complex, specifically because some timeouts are due to DCs. The best we can do for this scenario is say that there is some number between 1 minute and 2 minutes (which we will not publicize) that we will set as a limit for timing out, and if you timeout with more than that limit time remaining, we'll assume it is a DC, whereas the opposite is a true timeout. A true timeout defaults to a loss, while the DC timeout is prone to the DC rules (did you submit or not).

~ Aldaron


^ Note: When submitting teams, use https://cryptobin.co/ and submit it to the dedicated team submit account, TeamSubmissions


On "Self-KO Clause" and Ties:
Self-KO Clause is an antiquated concept that is not used in Smogon tournaments. The one exception to the rule is if the tournament is live (weekly Smogon Tour, Suspect Tours, etc.). For all standard tournaments here this rule does not exist. It Does Not Exist.

If both Pokemon faint simultaneously in DPP, ADV, GSC, or RBY, the game is ruled as a tie. Tied games do not count as played games in overall standings and will be expected to be replayed within the round's initial deadline. Similarly to this, tied games do not count towards the total number of games played in "best of X" series. In other words, if a tournament includes "Bo3" RBY, what is really being played is "first to two wins" RBY.

However, ties simply don't exist in later generations. The developers removed ties from BW and have not added them back since. There's a lot of inconsistency with the mechanics of their tiebreaking system but Smogon follows them to stay true to the cartridge. The main ones are listed below:

Note: The following list is for SM, XY, and BW, and not for DPP, ADV, GSC, or RBY

Self-KO Moves (Destiny Bond, Explosion, Final Gambit, etc.):
Attacking Pokemon Loses

Offensive Recoil (Life Orb; Double-Edge, Flare Blitz, etc.):
Attacking Pokemon Wins

Defensive Recoil (Rocky Helmet; Iron Barbs, Rough Skin):
Attacking Pokemon Wins (SM)
Attacking Pokemon Loses (XY and BW)

Passive Damage (Status, Weather, etc.):
Faster Pokemon Loses



Substitutions:
Substitutions will be not be allowed in tiebreak series unless both teams agree (or TDs enforce double sub). However, since we prioritise games being played, we will consider extension requests so long as they're reasonable. We will also be reluctant to give activity wins to those who are clearly fishing for them.



Simulator:

Pokémon Showdown is the main simulator for this tournament, and Smogtours is the main server.


Deadline:

The deadline for this round will be Sunday, July 30th @ 11:59 pm EDT. Please schedule your games as quickly as possible.
 
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SM OU 1: ABR vs. Pearl
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- vs. MetalGro$$
SM OU 3: PDC vs. Ban Manaphy
SM OU 4: TDK vs. Blackoblivion
SM OU 5: John vs. R!cardo
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini vs. Jimmy Turtwig
BW2 OU: Jayde vs. ZoroDark
DPP OU: august vs. Void
ADV OU: Bad Ass vs. We Three Kings
GSC OU: BKC vs. choolio
 
SM OU 1: ABR vs. Pearl
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- vs. MetalGro$$
SM OU 3: PDC vs. Ban Manaphy
SM OU 4: TDK vs. Blackoblivion
SM OU 5: John vs. R!cardo
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini vs. Jimmy Turtwig
BW2 OU: Jayde vs. ZoroDark
DPP OU: august vs. Void
ADV OU: Bad Ass vs. We Three Kings
GSC OU: BKC vs. choolio

think east wins this one
 
SM OU 1: ABR vs. Pearl - Pearl has a good chance of winning in terms of level of play, but even if he gets the matchup advantage in this game I'd expect ABR to come out on top. Close one
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- vs. MetalGro$$
SM OU 3: PDC vs. Ban Manaphy - Ban Manaphy has looked really solid in playing and his team choice. I think the momentum favors him coming into this game but PDC isn't one to go down so easily, and he delivers when called on
SM OU 4: TDK vs. Blackoblivion - Better player, I think he'll make it 5-1 after this game
SM OU 5: John vs. R!cardo
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini vs. Jimmy Turtwig
BW2 OU: Jayde vs. ZoroDark
DPP OU: august vs. Void
ADV OU: Bad Ass vs. We Three Kings
GSC OU: BKC vs. choolio

Go friends *_*
 

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east always wins so gl europe rooting for u guys
both teams have got friends tho, so i'd basically be okay with both winning :))
 

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SM OU 1: ABR vs. Pearl
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- vs. MetalGro$$
SM OU 3: PDC vs. Ban Manaphy
SM OU 4: TDK vs. Blackoblivion
SM OU 5: John vs. R!cardo
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini vs. Jimmy Turtwig
BW2 OU: Jayde vs. ZoroDark
DPP OU: august vs. Void
ADV OU: Bad Ass vs. We Three Kings
GSC OU: BKC vs. choolio
 

Updated Kanto

Banned deucer.
SM OU 1: ABR vs. Pearl
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- vs. MetalGro$$
SM OU 3: PDC vs. Ban Manaphy
SM OU 4: TDK vs. Blackoblivion
SM OU 5: John vs. R!cardo
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini vs. Jimmy Turtwig
BW2 OU: Jayde vs. ZoroDark
DPP OU: august vs. Void
ADV OU: Bad Ass vs. We Three Kings
GSC OU: BKC vs. choolio
 

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1. US East (8) vs. 7. Europe (2)

SM OU 1: ABR (60) vs. (40) Pearl - ABR is always very in touch with the metagame, crafting teams without conventional boundaries and making them fit well to the style of his opponent and the common trends going around. I feel like Pearl will put something solid out there and play a good game like he normally does, but come up short because ABR will just be a step ahead when it comes to his team and play in this tier.
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- (100) vs. (0) MetalGro$$ - bl
SM OU 3: PDC (55) vs. (45) Ban Manaphy - Ban Manaphy is surely a trendy upset pick due to his recent success, but I think that picking him as a favorite is a bit of a stretch if only because his opponent is PDC, who happens to be one of the more consistent performers over the past 2-3 years (outside of last WCOP, pretty much). PDC probably won't break a sweat here -- he will get handed a team or come up with something later in the week and then scurry to test with his circle of discord contacts Saturday night only to play a close, but comfortable game in his favor come Sunday vs Ban Manaphy.
SM OU 4: TDK (55) vs. (45) Blackoblivion - TDK has gotten the shitty end of some match-ups, which is partially on him, but also not really letting his record fully represent his level of play. I feel like he has played a solid and consistent game pretty much all year whereas BO has just started to do so, putting up a relatively flashy performance this WCOP so far. I also think that, while BO is solid, his team choices could improve somewhat. TDK will get himself better footing from team preview and handle this one well, but if BO plays like he did in past weeks, then it could go either way.
SM OU 5: John (70) vs. (30) R!cardo - Kind of a mismatch in my eyes, to be quite honest. I think John has been pretty dominant overall and I do not see him dropping a playoff game to many people at this point. Ricardo is not bad, but he is not even one of the best OUers on his team and I think John will make quick work of him.
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini (60) vs. (40) Jimmy Turtwig - I think there is not too large a discrepancy in terms of playing level between the two of them, but FV is still probably a bit better. With that said, FV has looked locked in for most of WCOP and he had a really solid ORAS showing last round, so I see no reason why that cannot be extended on to this game, especially given his tendency to perform (see: last WCOP vs k12).
BW2 OU: Jayde (51) vs. (49) ZoroDark - Really good battle between two of the better BW players in this tour. I think Jayde is a clear favorite, but I rate Zoro pretty highly and I think he has something to prove as he has had a pretty quiet and even uneventful tournament thus far, so I expect him to give Jayde a really good run for his money and perhaps even take it.
DPP OU: august (45) vs. (55) Void - Void has not dropped a game all tournament and has even looked pretty dominant against some stronger opponents. August is only playing for the first time all tournament, but is historically known as a much better DPPer than Void. Favoring the recent results, but could go either way depending on if Void can leech a good team off of someone that isn't BKC.
ADV OU: Bad Ass (45) vs. (55) We Three Kings - I think w3k has looked quite impressive in ADV this WCOP and he has a slight edge on Bad Ass, who is solid all around.
GSC OU: BKC (65) vs. (35) choolio - BKC just seems like the better player here and whatever metagame genius Choolio may or may not have that has been hyped up will not compensate for the difference in experience and level-of-play, I feel.

Good luck to both teams and congratulations on making finals!
 
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1. US East (4) vs. 7. Europe (6)

SM OU 1: ABR vs. Pearl - abr hasn't stood out this tournament, and pearl seems to want it more. still a very close one and highlight match imo
SM OU 2: -Tsunami- vs. MetalGro$$ - terrible roster move on east's part, europe will capitalize
SM OU 3: PDC vs. Ban Manaphy - he's been on fire lately, and seemingly always clutch
SM OU 4: TDK vs. Blackoblivion - despite BO having the most unfortunate acronym on smogon, TDK is the one who stinks
SM OU 5: John vs. R!cardo - sigh...no justice
ORAS OU: FlamingVictini vs. Jimmy Turtwig - jimmy has a defined style in oras and it works for him, if he sticks to that he'll win via his top tier plays
BW2 OU: Jayde vs. ZoroDark - jayde is either great or awful, and he's been looking great lately
DPP OU: august vs. Void - hey two undefeated players. love august but seems like an odd move to put him in all of a sudden. void is the veteran killer
ADV OU: Bad Ass vs. We Three Kings - w3k is solid but bad ass has a far higher ceiling. he hasn't impressed so far, but it's finals
GSC OU: BKC vs. choolio - you're all idiots if you think this is one sided. choolio's teams are fire and will surprise the mind-numbingly standard style of bkc

europe has a beautiful cinderella story that would reach an impossibly happy and satisfying ending. they only need to surmount this gang of incestuous egomaniacal carnival clowns we call east. their team dynamic is a thing of beauty and represents everything that is the polar opposite of the hated east circlejerk (minus w3k, who would fit right in). they aren't the clear favorites but they can pull it off. and i'll fucking vomit if east wins after lucking their way through 2 tiebreaks so there's that.

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