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FEEL FREE TO DISCUSS ANY TEAM IN COMMENTS I WILL TAKE GOOD ADVICE THANK YOU ALL ENJOY THE TEAMS

EDIT: as per the old archive format i will build around the suggested mons/cores in the comments


No need for the intro, this is the followup to the oras archive so basically have some free shit cuz im kinda bored of sumo. Mostly tryhard shit but ill add more fire flames fun shit
i wont be explaining teams too much so feel free to ask about sets and synergy. u might notice i have mosa on almost every team because i think it is the most versatile/lowest opportunity cost mon in the game in the sense that u lose the least/gain the most utility running it over the next mon
teams in no particular order, shoutout blunder 4 tests n shit to get me used to the meta
WARNING MOST OF THESE TEAMS ARE UNTESTED SOME MIGHT BE ASS
(ALSO I USE PO SO GRENINJA-UNBONDED = ASH NINJA)


1. Bulu Jutsu
one of my first. not good but beats fat shit. sucks that tangrowth walls too many things but at least theres spikes

http://puu.sh/tUeJg/d115a5b73d.txt


2. Ur Grounded
another early creation hence scrflele which i dont think is that good rn. u can replace it for mosa cuz scarf mosa can go over p much any scarfer besides like keld and lego who need to tank hits. the lant set is to beat stall, which is also why i have lele cuz u lead lele, mb, double to lando, sd, smack the skarm and u also 2ko the clef. u can ditch sd on lant to make it better vs other teams, even use flyium too for tang.
TRY SHED SHELL SKARM IF U FEAR ZONE

http://puu.sh/tUfer/2f445ae4e0.txt


3. Utility Mosa
early experimentation w no scarfer. lo mosa spins more reliably, uturn can be bug buzz, ice beam can be hp elec (actually should be). jolly zard isnt rlly worth it on fat, u can run jolly and hit 310 for scarf lant. also i discovered gastro to be a great mon this gen as it walls half the meta as seen in blunders week 3 game
TRY SHED SHELL SKARM IF U FEAR ZONE

http://puu.sh/tUfRY/ee7aad9c7a.txt


4. MAMA (Quavo voice)
koko-mamo is a combo that i thought would be pretty effective. lure in the grounds/grasses and do damage w mamo. the only mons that tank mamo are fat waters and steels like celesteela/skarm, where koko + spikes do damage

http://puu.sh/tUgKA/e99cc4e767.txt


5. Hot Wauta
gyara+cune to break fat cores w double water synergy, and alolan wak to beat koko and shit. tran can be an assault vest gearna to handle hits better but then the only zard x check is switching smart between the intimidaters.

http://puu.sh/tUhZJ/df3381a604.txt


6. Love Mosa
idk about this archetype nor do i know how this team works this is pure theorycraft. however qd mosa is a fucking savage and a simple memento into qd will sweep teams.
TRY SHED SHELL SKARM IF U FEAR ZONE

http://puu.sh/tUkiv/8eba0e2b6b.txt


7. Phoes n Tricks
spex mosa is one of the best mons if not the best mon/lead in the meta. lant gets rocks reliably. tr core is standard, tried and true. gearna set is flexxxible

http://puu.sh/tUkV3/8f3923a519.txt


8. Mensa
pretty standard mence team

http://puu.sh/tUlzk/376b656587.txt
similar one

http://puu.sh/u0mrC/f34af0c9d2.txt


9. Mr. Steela Yo Gurl
another self-explanatory fatcore team

http://puu.sh/tUlTF/986699f57b.txt
a gengar version

http://puu.sh/u0tVI/9bcc4f6dcb.txt


10. Volturn
volturn in its tried and true form. tran set is some hot butterdoodoo blunder asked me to try, its meh. theres a version 2 tho it looks goofier

http://puu.sh/tUmFf/7e377b42aa.txt (V1)

http://puu.sh/tUmKC/8e5701dbb8.txt (V2)


11. Chansey Offense
might be genius, most likely hot asscheese

http://puu.sh/tUnrO/8d1b0c0c3e.txt (V1)

http://puu.sh/tUnGq/9669c2f538.txt (V2)


12. Sidekick
tested this extensively vs blunder, also tried mzam over reuni. this team is solid and has potential

http://puu.sh/tUnJb/2b8cfbaa14.txt


13. Best Team in SUMO
shit is heat. jsut try it
ANOTHER OPTION is tenta > pex and sash dug

http://puu.sh/tUo5J/b5168e34a5.txt
SIMILAR TEAM MORE OFFENSIVE

http://puu.sh/tUoNt/bc8ee63de5.txt

Updated 2/12/17

14. In Soviet Russian Mosquito Crush U
i dont like azu much in this meta but its kinda needed to pivot into hits as it still does quite well, revenges mosa/volc on top of that, and is decently strong. zwole comes in on whatever stops gross. team is slow as balls tho that may be a problem also buzzwole can just be replaced with any mosa set lets be honest

http://puu.sh/u0oAj/6fe3e8e92b.txt


15. Azure
took me a while to realize that since alolan maro switches into half the meta, chand should do the same. sub cm does work vs fat shit, bellyzu takes ppl by surprise and deals w the fat shit that wanna wall mosa

http://puu.sh/u0p6v/240a1a759b.txt



16. See Dem Hands Bruh
this is a more oras structured team w a new steel new water and new scarfer. standard

http://puu.sh/u0th3/8421464b8d.txt



17. Illegal Screen
a revamp of an oras dual screen dance lant + gyara core dunno if its any good
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http://puu.sh/u0uVd/269f50ef0b.txt











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Nice thread, one of the best ways to learn a meta is to try all of its viable mons, I really appreciate your effort in making this.
 
You think about making skarmory shed shell on some of these? Helmet chip is nice but mag + lele/pinsir/mence/whatev runs thru the 6 on some teams, particularly teams 2,3, and 6.
 

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time to answer some of the comments
1. no i havent tried muk, i thought itd be viable when aegi was around but now that thats gone idk if its that useful. ill try puttin it on a team tho, and also, lele isnt that high on the list of top meta threats
2. shed skarm should be used if mag is at least somewhat used. i havent rlly been playing nor have i seen too many but yea def a great option on skarm on those teams, 2/3/6 thanks for the idea!
 

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You've used M-Gyara in 2 teams but I think you should definitely try Z-Bounce Gyara that mon is fire and it's even better than its Mega-Evo lol lit teams nonetheless hope to see an update soon!
 

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yea u right mgyara is literally only for stall but once dug is banned stall will die down and i can use reg gyara good call (on the screens team i think bounce gyara is fine)
 
Team 13 a & b both the pex's have lefties instead of black sludge.

I didn't understand lefties SpDef alowak at all until I used it.

It's heat.
 

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ID LIKE TO SEE SUGGESTIONS ON MONS/SETS/CORES THAT U THINK ARE COOL AND WANT ME TO MAKE A TEAM AROUND THNX GUYS
 

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ID LIKE TO SEE SUGGESTIONS ON MONS/SETS/CORES THAT U THINK ARE COOL AND WANT ME TO MAKE A TEAM AROUND THNX GUYS
Life Orb Victini with V-Create, Bolt Strike, Zen Headbutt, and U-turn, great breaker in the current meta with all the Fairies runnign around. I was thinking maybe like a BO team could work.
 
13th team really has -spdef phero so that rapid spin does more damage
nice compilation by the way, looks like some fun stuff :)

also if you're looking for dumb/interesting stuff to build around check out Rockium-Z SSmash Barbaracle. It's fun and hits like a truck, but struggles with coverage (eq vs cross chop for 4th slot) and is difficult to set up (though you can vs passive mons like fini and ohko with ccrush after). 516 speed at +2 outspeeds most common scarfers as well.
 
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I'm curious what can be done with Decidueye!! A mediocre pick overall, but it does have some fun niches and role compression! I know it's hard enough to build around, so I won't add other core members here.
 
Yo CTC, I saw the Reuniclus TR team and thought it was fire, especially after seeing Joey's live with it. However, I came up against a few Alolan-Marowaks and I basically had to click x. The mon, quite literally, OHKOs the entire team and will-o-wisps the only one it can't, ScarfChomp. Only reason I beat this one guy with an A-Wak was because he had fucking banded Tauros and sucker punched my Phero while psychic terrain was still up lmao.

vs. Reuniclus: 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Shadow Bone vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Reuniclus: 560-660 (132 - 155.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
vs. Ferrothorn
: 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 520-616 (147.7 - 175%) -- guaranteed OHKO
vs. Tapu Lele
: 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Shadow Bone vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 560-660 (199.2 - 234.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
vs. Celesteela
: 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Celesteela: 378-446 (94.9 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
vs. Pheromosa
: 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Pheromosa: 830-980 (293.2 - 346.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The thing literally kills two Tapu Leles with one Shadow Bone lmaooo

Anyways I feel like you should replace Ferrothorn with something else that gets up rocks/spikes/both but isn't 6-0'd by A-Wak, possibly Tyranitar. It can pursuit the A-Wak or just crunch it's ass out.

"Look back at it..."
Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 248 HP / 72 Atk / 184 Def / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge

Honestly this thing has way too many good moves to use, you can pick your own since the only necessary ones are rocks. The 184 defense is to ensure it lives a +2 Mega Scizor BP after rocks, and the rest is in attack for pursuit/crunch power. You could also replace Crunch for Ice Beam/Ice Punch/Superpower.
 
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