trickroom

It could've been Specs, all I could tell that it was Choice teehee



Deoxys-A is also annoying as Tentacruel can't come in to spin its hazards :(

V horrible scarf ogre weakness........

Hail team looks STRONG I'll try it later

And just a tiny bit more to smog~

like when taking money bills - CHACHING


and it's done, just wait a tiny bit more to see it! it looks fantastic!

CHACHING

nah, wasn't that great imo. makes stall useless so you're forced to play offense all the time, even though not that many people used it.

i am looking forward to moody sleep and species

you came back ;o

:( I will see you soon (hopefully). I just thought classic stall needed a revenge killer. I didn't realize you wall everything barring Reshiram without that.

Seems like it.

For me, it's good bulk and access to Roost are more dangerous then the Choiced sets. It's still hits hard as hell :/

Indeed :p

See you on December 6th :P. When using Gyro Ball on Forry though you have to be sure you nail Kyurems on the switch, if they come in successfully then you might not get to Gyro Ball them due to FUSION FLARE !_!.

I think I underestimated Gyarados. Toxic Splits also cool on Forry just for the fact you beat Giratina-O lacking Substitute and HP Fire. Almost all of them run EQ now a days lol.

Ludicolo and Kingdra 2HKO 252 HP versions with SR though x_x. Specs Dra 2HKOes Sp Def. Grass Arceus (or Support, whatever you wanna call it :P). SD Ice Punch from Ludicolo is decently strong too, it 2HKOes and its not like Grass Arceus can do anything to Ludi aside judge it which won't do TOO much. Omastar is still too cool for any of that nonsense, +2 Ice Beam vs. 252 HP 144 Sp def Grass Arc. (92.56 - 109%) -- 56.25% chance to OHKO. lol.

Yeah but if Latias is on Classic stall what are you using it over x_x. Blissey? Are you getting rid of your spin blocker? Foddering the revenge killer? Or getting rid of Groudon / Lugia?

:(, oh well after the 6th of December stuff can happen. Also wait what ?_?, I thought you can post with any cell phone so long as it has some kind of cookie to save passwords :(. Oh well... I still misses you.

The only thing I like about Beartic is that like Poliwrath, it can use Encore to setup a move, meaning you don't need to be THAT reliant on Wobbufett support. Of course, without Shadow Tag, that means your utterly screwed if the other guy switches (meaning your relying on the other guy being a little stupid I guess), and of course you can't tank a hit at all which is just... oh and its SR weak. Combine that with Life Orb and you have to hope you can switch in multiple times x_x.

Gyro Ball forry is OP but they stopped running it because they were setup bait for Dragon Dance Gyarados. That and they really like running Toxic and Pain Split to wittle down its HP and that of Spin blockers (more of Gyarados though :P). Volt Switch also 2HKOes Gyarados and as a bonus it lets you keep momentum.

Weavile needs the revenge killer to be dead though... unless weakened Palkia, I'm not misdefining Classic Stall right? (Groudon, Chansey, Lugia, Giratina (idk some spin blocker), Forry, Revenge killer which has to be Palkia if your not running Sp Def Tina-a.) Granted its not like Mr. Bear does any better. At least Weavile can get a quick attack off. All Beartic has is weak Aqua Jet :(.

Beartic + Kabutops means you just foddered a lot of space to get a defensive back bone, oh and you need Kyogre too, you'll have to cram defensive roles on the rest of the team unless your going completely offensive. Oh and Beartic has to compete with Kingdra and Ludicolo who can actually 2HKO Grass Arceus with Life Orbed Ice Beam. I don't think Ludicolo can break Giratina-a but Kingdra can Draco Meteor the thing for sure. Oh and they actually have speed lol. Omastar doesn't get a mention here because it has speed issues too and can't break past Grass Arceus unless sufficent hazard support.

Furry takes up your entire wall x_x (I MUST ADD :D). I want trickroom back on IRC, what date in November / December did you say you'd be back :P?

Oh that and apparently I can't get on PS anymore unless its via cell phone x_x. Tell Furry that Beartic barely avoids OHKO from Espeed from Exkiller after rocks. I'm actually kind of in the same position as you with Beartic x_x (hence reason why I haven't posted on it). Besides, Superpower / Low Kick doesn't even OHKO 0 HP Extremekiller Arceus. All Beartic has over Weavile is Swift Swim and Icicle Crash, the only thing Icicle Crash does is let it have a better chance at OHKOing Physical Great Wall Giratina-a after rocks. Swift Swim -> I beat Mewtwo but lose against Rayquaza but Weavile has that problem reversed. Didn't Weavile get rejected too x_x.

Thing with Ice Shard that now with the new Speed priorities ExtremeSpeed bypasses it and KOes :( I'll respond to rest later!

Big VMs and I'm from my iPhone aaaaaaaaa I'll respond when I'm back home from school

oh my GOD ;_;

I have exams too ;_; Hence the gray avatar!

OHKO clause is awful and I'm banning it :( Makes games too luck based, the reward is MUCH higher than the risk, and it throws the metagame out of balance :(

And yeah I'm perfectly fine with merging the CM sets. Refresh Lati is still the best! I dunno about number one though; you have a perfectly viable and solid point, but honestly, the All-out Attacker can unleah brute force immediately while also holding excellent bulk and coverage.

Gyarados should be S Rank lol! The roles it can do are AWESOME. Fuck you Groudon, Gyarados is the real physical wall! It has better resistances too~

Much agreed on Kyurem-B, though maybe Mixed Hone Claws before Mixed. It's so fucking awesome o_o

And yeah sure we'll collab and it's already done ;)

I miss you ;_____;

so it is the end of the world in 2012 ;_;

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Gyarados can surprise kill spinners with Fire Blast and Thunderbolt!

You applied!

Triple status Gyarados...............

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If it was up to me it wouldn't even go up!