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It took me while to make this, so please let me know what you think :)

But from almost the start kangaskanite was banned from OU, but not kangaskhan itself, meaning they quickly dismissed their own reasoning why not to do it. At that very moment they first went against that reasoning and banned the mega and not the poke, they should've/could've be consistent and...

why is charizard OU, when it is never used in OU? (talking about regular charizard) Shouldn't regular charizard be UU or lower (and just the mega stones OU)... Maybe venusaur as well?

It's not like this choice is permanent. Whatever choice wins the vote, if it turns out there's still a problem or a new one, we can just go with another option. (assuming barely anyone wants the meta to stay as it is) eventually it'll reach a balanced game.

In nature swap, stats are swapped. In 'take half' stats are taken. In nature swap 50def would switch with 100 spdef, not 0 def and 150 spdef like you insinuated (which would be 'take 100%'). In nature swap, swapping slurpuff's atk and spatk would do nothing. In 'take half' it would make Slurpuff...

option 2 definitely

where is this om that deals with hax? (in a way similar to what I suggested)

what's the use of orbs and thick club if you can just use light ball?

you don't have to ban talonflame. You can also cripple it, by banning BB or gale wings on talonflame...

Great minds think alike ;D

I think he means to ask if toxic should become an attacking move with 40BP (5 letters)

Well, there's only gardevoir and porygon-2 really. And porygon-2 isn't much of an attacker, so analytic and download might be good abilities, but if you want an attacker like that it's better to use P-Z with those abilities + adaptability Gardevoir loses synchronize and telepathy. Which aren't...

aw +10 looked way more fun. Maybe there should've just been like a max BP like 140 or something. I just really don't like stall.

I say let trace simply trace ALL the opponent's abilities.

Aqua jet and scald can't be used on eelektross on pandora yet. So that also has to be updated. Also, is there a way to view what three types the pokemon have? Or do you simply have to look on this threat to see that?

I think you might have to ban charizardites and venusaurite to balance the meta though. You can never be sure before testing though.

I'm in

make this the no legends+no megas metagame? Just a suggestion cause of annoying venasaurs and charizards.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-ou-viability-rankings-thread-re-ranking.3509436/ : A- Rank Breloom Chansey Diggersby Kyurem-B Mamoswine Manaphy Scolipede Skarmory ----------- He forgot Skarmory

you forgot skarmory