You could also go with Hypnosis, so grass types aren't immune to your sleep move.Z trick room increases accuracy. So that basically turns sleep poweder in a pseudo spore. Could be a cool tactic for trick room teams in doubles.
In sunlight his flamethrower hits hard in a mixed set, and your other moves can be physical. Otherwise I'd go one way or the other.I'm guessing for the Trick Room Quiet/Brave sets having 0 Speed IVs would be ideal, as well?
Edit: I also wonder if there's any merit to a Mixed set. For example something with:
Dragon Hammer
Leaf Storm/Giga Drain
Earthquake/Flamethrower
Trick Room/Sludge Wave
Ummm Why a Wiki Berry? It would only restore 1/8 of your HP, so why not go Sitrus?Thanks to the recent reset I've finally been able to toy with the set I wanted:
Exeggutor-Alola @ Wiki Berry
Ability: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Toxic
- Flamethrower
How good is this set? Abysmal. But it's probably the best set Eggy has in the OU tier. The investment is so that Banded Bulu is setup fodder, and then the rest goes into SpD.
Before we can talk about any great points of this set, let's talk about its flaws. 1. Coverage options that can force Eggy out are everywhere, so your stall opportunities are limited. 2. You're lower speed than almost every other Pokemon in the tier, making SubSeed very difficult. 3. MVenu ends you. 4. Bulu and Celesteela do it better. 5. I've lost games to long streaks without Harvest triggering.
I've gone up against teams that just can't answer this thing. I've also gone up against teams where I throw Eggy to the fire without it dealing a point of damage. It's never won me a game that Celesteela couldn't have won (some rare cases celesteela would've had a harder time, but still won anyways). The few times I get a match up very heavily favored for Eggy, Harvest decides to never trigger.
Overall, Alolan Eggy is terrible, and don't use it. But if you DO use it, I highly suggest this set. It's hilarious to play with and occasionally you can run into otherwise well-built teams that have an extremely frustrating time trying to break this thing. Free 50% healing without devoting a turn to it (albeit on RNG rolls, but still) is very difficult to pass up, and you can very much stall your opponents out of the game... just don't expect Eggy to do anything like that more than once in a few games at best.
So this is a high risk - high reward berry: having a Pokèmon below 1/4 HP is not so appealing: a Sitrus Berry can be better, as it restores the holder to the same amount (75%) and activates earlier.they heal 50% when at 25% now
That's actually pretty amazing, but I don't know if Exeggutor himself would be the one it's amazing for. Seems too high risk high reward for this type of Pokemon. Is Showdown updated to reflect this change with those berries yet? I'd definitely like to test some brainstorm sets with them if nothing else.HOLY SHIT
I don't know the English names(sorry) but the berries which healed a low amount of health and confused you when you have the wrong nature for its taste? They heal now MUCH more than Sitrus Berry. I am not sure how much but this is important: With Harvest we could technically turn Harvest Mon in unkillable Sub users
Well not quite. A Sitrus Berry restores 25% of your health, while Wiki restores 50%. Assuming both berries activate in separate matches, you have an effective 125% HP with Sitrus and an effective 150% with Wiki. The risk/reward factor really depends on how effectively you manage your defenses. If they do less than 50%, Wiki is better because the 3HKO turns into a 4HKO. If they do more than 50% but less than 62.5%, Sitrus is better because it activates on that first hit instead of the second hit and turns a 2HKO into 3HKO. If they do 62.5% or more, you're just wasting your time on those berries and should honestly ask yourself why did you let your pokemon take that hit in the first place. It really depends on how well you manage your defenses, not so much a "high risk/high reward" thing.So this is a high risk - high reward berry: having a Pokèmon below 1/4 HP is not so appealing: a Sitrus Berry can be better, as it restores the holder to the same amount (75%) and activates earlier.
For an offensive berry, I'd say either a Custap Berry or a berry for Natural Gift (probably Watmel). Custap does lose some value when combined with Trick Room, but it could be used as a backup, since if your HP is within Custap range, it probably isn't safe to set up Trick Room.After playing around with it a lot I come to the conclusion: Trick Room is mandatory.Trick Room Exeggutor alongside its wonderful movepool is just like using "Agility" on a better Mega Sceptile.
I am still uncertain however which Berry to use on Ex. On the one hand, Rest + Chesto is actually quite useable, but what Exegg would need would be an "offensive" berry.
Maybe someone has an idea for a good berry? I REALLY want to use Harvest effectively as Frisk isn't as good as I thought it would be :/
Off topic Gluttony Snorlax + Confuse Berry + Recycle = 20 PP Recover. 0 damage Belly Drum is kinda neat too.So this is a high risk - high reward berry: having a Pokèmon below 1/4 HP is not so appealing: a Sitrus Berry can be better, as it restores the holder to the same amount (75%) and activates earlier.
Probably, only Gluttony Pokémon can make true use of these berries, in particular Alolan Muk which can restore itself to 100% health and unlock Belch when it has half of HP; even though it has a low SpA, I think it can make some damage (think about Boomburst Swellow)
Exeggutor is tanky, somehow: it had a nice resist on Water/Electric/Grass, three common types; moreover, it is very slow, and has nice offensive stats, making it a good choice in dedicated Trick Room teams; finally, it even has access to 3 solid recovery options in Sitrus-Harvest, ChestoRest, and Synthesis.Off topic Gluttony Snorlax + Confuse Berry + Recycle = 20 PP Recover. 0 damage Belly Drum is kinda neat too.
On topic, with these confuse berries I only see them being viable on a tankier exeggsutor because getting down to 25% would take an absurd hit or multiple hits. I'd run sitrus on higher damage builds.
I should be more clear, I meant it your using it more as a stall tank than a bruiser. It does have 4 solid resists but 6 weaknesses as well. With the OP build I don't feel like you would get the berry to trigger reliably with the confuse berries. I feel like sitrus would be safer on the OP build because of it triggering at 50% meaning it has potentially one extra turn to trigger Harvest against mediocre hits.Exeggutor is tanky, somehow: it had a nice resist on Water/Electric/Grass, three common types; moreover, it is very slow, and has nice offensive stats, making it a good choice in dedicated Trick Room teams; finally, it even has access to 3 solid recovery options in Sitrus-Harvest, ChestoRest, and Synthesis.
Thing is: although the "Ex-Useless Berries" (Figy/Wiki/Mago/Aguav/Iapapa) give it an automatic Synthesis when HP < 25%, I can see that a Sitrus is more reliable on this thing: in fact, the difference between a EUBerry and a clean KO is almost non-existant, since Eggy's type has bad weakspots to Dragon, Ice, Flying, and Fairy
Offtopic: Pyukumu-kukuku I didn't get the thing about Snorlax :/
That's not how it works. Endure is a gen 4 tutor move, harvest is a hidden ability (gen 5 and up only). They're incompatible. Plus, custap is currently unreleased in SM.Is it worth pointing out that if you can evolve a Transferred Exeggcute into Alolan Exeggutor, you can get Custap/Harvest/Endure with pretty high attacking stats?
That's actually kind of scary (assuming it works): Gets knocked down to <1/4 > eats berry > priority attack > (possible harvest) > protect > (possible Harvest) > priority attack. If you just protect on the turns you you don't harvest and attack when you have the berry you can have some 80+ BP STAB +1 priority moves. I feel like I'm missing something that would prevent this from being broken because nobody has run it before that I've heard of.Is it worth pointing out that if you can evolve a Transferred Exeggcute into Alolan Exeggutor, you can get Custap/Harvest/Endure with pretty high attacking stats?
I would run Chesto over Lum in this case, that way if your low and statused chesto will only kick when you hit rest (which will replace the status with sleep) That way if harvest doesn't kick that turn you won't need to sleep through a turn for the next harvest to cure the sleep from rest.I am going to put this in a team and i was thinking.
Harvest , Lum berry
Curse
Rest
Dragon Hammer
Wood Hammer / Seed Bomb