I specifically didn't put a name link on this because I'm not trying to call this person out, and I explicitly don't want to strawman them. I have seen this "stolen" wording a lot, and I think a lot of the people who use it have some very incompatible opinions about fanart featuring copyrighted characters. If there's a desire to turn that into legislative action, that will be a real monkey's paw moment.I think the comparison between an AI being trained on (scraped and stolen) images
NEVER give up on your dreams!!!!!!!!For people who would want to become artists, would this theoretically mean they should give up on their dreams?
This is literally already happening and has been for the better part of a decade. In fact, it’s arguably been happening in one form or another for pretty much the entirety of human history. AI might be the next revolution in marketing, but let’s not pretend like manipulating people into buying shit is some new phenomenon. Corporations have been using algorithms and all the information they steal from you to target you with ads for a while now.as myzozoa said AI's best function for the consumer will be that we will be more accurately targeted in AlGore-itms so we spend more money on things more removed from human interaction
the application of machine learning in the arts will pacify consumers as they have their worldviews and beliefs uncritically reinforced by regurgitated works, never challenging them with unique story structures or confrontational, difficult stories and styles, or radical politics, or anything outside of their pre-existing frame of reference.
Isn't this just an extension of fanfiction?i'm really surprised about the people who say "if you could transpose your thoughts onto the screen as a 'movie' wouldn't AI be great?"
Speaking as someone who very recently (I’m talking, like, over the past week recent) started thinking about my old interests in free writing again, I can confirm this is true. As far as copyright laws are concerned, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong but it doesn’t seem like there is separate legislation for human-written and AI fanfics respectively for most I.Ps just yet. Same deal for most fan art from what little I know. Again, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong about any of this.Isn't this just an extension of fanfiction?
I see this rhetoric of this all of the recent ai development to be for "democratization", inclusion, and accessibility. It's that specific wording that's parroted among a lot of devs that really irks me. There is no unfair barrier to entry to art and the attainment of art skills. It is not a craft that is possible to make more accessible without completely destroying the fundamental definition of an artist. It's also not a skill that people are born with, and thus isn't worth discussing in the context of equity or whatever.Artists, people with skill, dedication, talent, aka basically blessed by God, don't deserve to hoard art itself.
skill issueArtists, people with skill, dedication, talent, aka basically blessed by God, don't deserve to hoard art itself.
I'm no fan of corporations or capitalism, in case my other posts didn't give that away, but art is one of the few fields that isn't really dominated by corporate interests, because creation and consumption of art is extremely difficult to gatekeep (as NFTs should have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt). The majority of transactions involving art are individuals or small-scale projects commissioning art from other individuals or small-scale collaboratives; larger companies generally hire their own dedicated artists, and while corporatized graphics companies do exist, they don't have nearly as much of an economic stranglehold on art as exists in other kinds of material goods.AI is nothing but good for Art. Right now it isn't because companies and stupid people are hoarding the data, but eventually.
Artists, people with skill, dedication, talent, aka basically blessed by God, don't deserve to hoard art itself.
Art is for everyone, the consumer and the artist. For too long the Artist has held art hostage. Now we have capitalists holding art hostage but thats another issue entirely.
I don't think generative AI is particularly good at creating anything. It's not even particularly good at creating Original Corporate Logos, the lowest form of "art." I think tech hype is simply causing economic actors to behave irrational about tech they don't understand. Once the AI bubble bursts those positions will be filled again.I staunchly hate AI-generated art. The artwork from the first few years was messy and uncanny, but the recent influx of AI art looks very (some might say uncannily) hyperrealistic. In fact, some companies have even laid off a majority of human workers from their design teams in favor of AI art. As a result, human creativity and employment have been sacrificed in favor of a computer program that copies off other images.
As a webcomic artist on DeviantArt, I must contend with the possibility that many digital artists worldwide spend several days pouring their heart and soul into masterpieces that they wish to display, only to be upstaged by something that took an AI a few minutes to generate.
Yes, this is a fair and accurate representation of what I said and very indicative of your high level of intelligence.uppababy earl Divine Retribution
If you guys want to live in a world where the strong rule over the weak, the smart rule over the stupid, the creative rule over the bored... then be my guest.
But don't complain to me when someone like me (stronger, smarter, more creative) runs you all over.
this of course contrasts with image-generating models, which everyone cares about now. it's honestly pretty funny watching the humanists in this thread talk about ai art and how "illegitimate" it is. these people have already given far more ground than they know. if current generative models weren't a threat, there would be no reason to do all this posting about the essential wholesome 100 indivisible human soul.DJ Sex Pest — Today at 8:45 PM
@DJ Whoever
im working on this post about ai art in cong
and i have this take that i dont feel comfortable calling myself an artist because by and large people don't care about the things i create
i was wondering if you felt the same way, also being someone who draws things
DJ Whoever — Today at 8:46 PM
id say so yeah
i draw pretty infrequently rn and i get maximum like 3 likes on each thing i post on twitter
can’t stop thinking about this. the horrors of a meritocracyuppababy earl Divine Retribution
If you guys want to live in a world where the strong rule over the weak, the smart rule over the stupid, the creative rule over the bored... then be my guest.
But don't complain to me when someone like me (stronger, smarter, more creative) runs you all over.
AI art is not art. it's AI art and it should be differenciatedi mean arts beauty is lowkey the meaning behind which stems from a humans experiences i dont think ai art should be normalized i think it should stay a joke to make funny things like gangster spongebob and patrick and leave art to humans and stuff so it actually has meaning and cant just be made in 1 second so people can realize the hard work put into making it
It is objectively speaking art. AI art programs are tools used by people to produce an idea. The AI can't do anything without a human telling it what to do.AI art is not art. it's AI art and it should be differenciated