Approved by blarajan
taken over from DTC
Counter that Pokémon aims to serve as a discussion thread to find counter for the top threats of the LC metagame, especially potential suspects. Each week a popular Pokémon set that is threatening and really powerful will be chosen by I (or another person I choose or one of the staff in case I'm not present) and people will discuss how to deal with that specific threat in terms of checking, countering, revenge killing, preparing, and other concepts like that. If you don't know what a counter is then this article is going to help you. Don't forget to explain your set and describe how it would handle the topic Pokemon in different situations. This project is also a great way to get noticed for the shiny Community Contributor badge if you write some good posts.
Rules:
- DO NOT BREAK THE FORUM RULES.
- You may only post one answering set for the topic Pokémon, you can't also edit your Pokémon so think wisely before posting.
- If you reserve something make sure to post it 12 hours max after posting a reservation, if you don't do so the Pokémon that you reserved would be able to be chosen by other users.
- Use common sense and avoid gimmicks, I don't want to see stuff like Choice Specs Mienfoo suggested.
- Avoid using slashes as you should only concentrate at checking / countering the topic Pokémon and nothing else.
- You may only vote once, don't change your vote.
- During the voting phase you can discuss the sets and try to convince other people, but remember you can not change your vote and remember there is a deadline so always vote before it.
Good luck and happy posting.
Good luck and happy posting.
Past Pokémon:
Abra (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 5
EVs: 240 SpA / 200 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Dazzling Gleam
What counters it: By: Obvious Power
Ability: Aftermath
Level: 5
EVs: 92 Atk / 220 Def / 188 SpD
Careful Nature
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- Defog
- Filler
Mienfoo (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Knock Off
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge
- Poison Jab
What counters it: By: zeriloa
Ekans @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 36 Atk / 168 Def / 12 SpD
Impish Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Glare
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch
Archen (F) @ Berry Juice
Ability: Defeatist
Level: 5
EVs: 180 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Acrobatics
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
What counters it: By: The TurtleLord
Shellos (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Sticky Hold
Level: 5
EVs: 228 HP / 212 Def / 60 SpA / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Earth Power
- Toxic
Bunnelby @ Life Orb
Ability: Huge Power
Level: 5
Happiness: 0
EVs: 228 Atk / 52 Def / 220 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 23 HP
- Frustration
- Quick Attack
- Earthquake
- Wild Charge
What counters it: By Aerow
Pumpkaboo-Super @ Berry Juice / Eviolite
Ability: Frisk
Level: 5
EVs: 204 HP / 196 Def / 76 SpD / 28 Spe
Careful Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Leech Seed
- Shadow Sneak
- Seed Bomb
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 76 HP / 196 SpA / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
- Shell Smash
- Hydro Pump
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
What counters it: By Goddess Briyella:
Slowpoke @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 120 SpA / 116 SpD
Modest Nature
- Scald
- Thunder Wave
- Slack Off
- Hidden Power [Grass]
Gastly (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Level: 5
EVs: 80 Atk / 200 SpA / 200 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Sucker Punch
What counters it: By The TurtleLord:
Stunky (M) @ Eviolite
Ability: Aftermath
Level: 5
EVs: 92 HP / 220 Def / 188 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Defog
- Fire Blast/Crunch
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
Timburr @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Atk / 76 Def / 156 SpD
Impish Nature
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- Mach Punch
- Poison Jab
What counters it, by Fiend Hound
Ekans @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 168 Def / 36 SpA / 12 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Giga Drain
- Acid Spray
- Sleep Talk
- Rest
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 60 Def / 212 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Poison Jab
- Swords Dance
What counters it: By Tahu:
Pumpkaboo-Super @ Eviolite
Ability: Frisk
Level: 5
EVs: 204 HP / 116 Def / 156 SpD
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Bullet Seed
- Shadow Sneak
- Destiny Bond
By Eren Yeagar:
Shellder @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 36 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Razor Shell
- Ice Shard
Croagunk @ Eviolite
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 132 HP / 28 Atk / 116 Def / 108 SpA / 116 SpD
Quiet Nature
- Drain Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Vacuum Wave
- Knock Off
Counter by Shrug:
Shellos @ Eviolite
Trait: Sticky Hold
Nature: Bold
Evs: 228 Hp / 132 Def / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
- Scald
- Earth Power
- Recover
- Yawn
Shellos takes nothing from Crogunk, Sludge Bomb is 37% max, and kills it (eventually) with Earth Power. This is better than all of the other counters because it isn't crippled by a Knock Off so it can be used later in the game as well
Shellder @ Eviolite
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 76 SpD / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Razor Shell
Counter by tazz:
Chinchou @ Berry Juice
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 76 HP/ 212 def/ 148 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
- Volt switch
- Scald
- Hidden Power Ground/ Ice Beam
- Heal Bell
Pawniard @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 HP
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch
Counter by kingmidas
Mienfoo @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 196 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Acrobatics
Ponyta @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 236 SpA / 76 SpD / 196 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sunny Day
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Morning Sun
Counter by Rowan
Ponyta @ Eviolite
Ability: Flame Body
Level: 5
EVs: 76 Atk / 236 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Will-O-Wisp
- Toxic
- Morning Sun
Fletchling
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 5
EVs: 156 HP / 200 Atk / 92 Def / 40 SpA / 20 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Acrobatics
- Overheat
- Roost
- Hidden Power [Grass]
Counter by Aerow:
Aron @ Berry Juice / Eviolite
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 196 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Impish Nature
- Head Smash
- Heavy Slam
- Superpower
- Rock Polish
Skrelp @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 36 Def / 200 SpA / 36 SpD / 200 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Sludge Wave
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Icy Wind
Counter by @sparktrain:
Croagunk @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 52 HP / 188 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
Chinchou @ Berry Juice
Ability: Volt Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 52 Def / 232 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Ground]
Goldeen @ Berry Juice
Ability: Lightningrod
Level: 5
EVs: 220 Atk / 36 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Megahorn
- Drill Run
- Knock Off
Corphish @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Crabhammer
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance
Counter by Sken:
Croagunk @ Eviolite
Ability: Dry Skin
Level: 5
EVs: 52 HP / 116 Def / 188 SpA / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
- Sludge Bomb
- Vacuum Wave
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
Pancham @ Eviolite
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 5
EVs: 140 HP / 180 Atk / 100 Def / 52 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Zen Headbutt
Counter by fitzy72:
Growlithe @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 236 HP / 156 Def / 116 SpD
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Flare Blitz
- Morning Sun
- Wild Charge
Aipom @ Life Orb
Level: 5
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fury Swipes
- Knock Off
- Brick Break
- Fake Out
counter by fitzy72:
Tirtouga @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Def / 12 SpA / 156 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Scald
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet
Ability: Drought
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Def / 196 SpA / 236 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 23 HP
- Overheat
- Fire Blast
- Energy Ball
- Extrasensory
Counter by apt-get:
Houndour @ Eviolite
Ability: Flash Fire
Level: 5
EVs: 76 HP / 36 Atk / 116 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sucker Punch
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