ponchlake
cult of personality cult leader
I hope you all have been enjoying the Fortemon's reboot. Your council has been keeping an eye on the meta, and with that in mind we've recently held a vote... Here are the results:
Houndstone is banned from Fortemons, and Flinch moves are restricted from the Item slot!
Houndstone:
Houndstone's ban is self-explanatory. Last Respects in the Item slot means that all of your attacks can boost to absurd levels depending on how many Pokemon you've lost. This could allow you to sweep late game with a 290 BP Shadow Sneak, which could effectively allow you to reverse 6-0 most team comps. I feel like this question is going to come up a lot, so I'm going to answer it now. "Why did you ban Houndstone instead of Last Respects?" is what I imagine some of you are asking. The reason for that is Houndstone is the sole abuser of Last Respects at the moment. We'd rather ban the one Pokemon that actually makes use of it rather then the move altogether. Pokemon Home will bring Basculegion, who also learns Last Respect. In the event that Basculegion is problematic in a similar fashion, we will instead look towards tiering action for Last Respects. At which point, Houndstone could come off the banlist.
Flinch:
Flinch in the Item slot is effectively a stronger version of King's Rock, which is already banned in a lot of metas for its inherent annoyance and arguably uncompetitiveness. In Fortemons, you can stack Flinch in the Item slot and moveslot to further increase your odds of getting one. That combined with Serene Grace meant that some Pokemon could guarantee a Flinch upon hit. That is textbook uncompetitive, and therefore we've elected to restrict Pokemon from holding Flinch moves in Fortemons. Serene Grace is still on the council's radar for potential abuse beyond spamming for Flinches.
Also, we've unbanned flat HP and HP% moves from the move slot. They are still restricted in the Item slot, but we would like to see how they pan out in the moveslot. If we find them to be too powerful, we will simply re-ban it.
tagging Kris to implement
Houndstone is banned from Fortemons, and Flinch moves are restricted from the Item slot!
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Houndstone:
Houndstone's ban is self-explanatory. Last Respects in the Item slot means that all of your attacks can boost to absurd levels depending on how many Pokemon you've lost. This could allow you to sweep late game with a 290 BP Shadow Sneak, which could effectively allow you to reverse 6-0 most team comps. I feel like this question is going to come up a lot, so I'm going to answer it now. "Why did you ban Houndstone instead of Last Respects?" is what I imagine some of you are asking. The reason for that is Houndstone is the sole abuser of Last Respects at the moment. We'd rather ban the one Pokemon that actually makes use of it rather then the move altogether. Pokemon Home will bring Basculegion, who also learns Last Respect. In the event that Basculegion is problematic in a similar fashion, we will instead look towards tiering action for Last Respects. At which point, Houndstone could come off the banlist.
Flinch:
Flinch in the Item slot is effectively a stronger version of King's Rock, which is already banned in a lot of metas for its inherent annoyance and arguably uncompetitiveness. In Fortemons, you can stack Flinch in the Item slot and moveslot to further increase your odds of getting one. That combined with Serene Grace meant that some Pokemon could guarantee a Flinch upon hit. That is textbook uncompetitive, and therefore we've elected to restrict Pokemon from holding Flinch moves in Fortemons. Serene Grace is still on the council's radar for potential abuse beyond spamming for Flinches.
Also, we've unbanned flat HP and HP% moves from the move slot. They are still restricted in the Item slot, but we would like to see how they pan out in the moveslot. If we find them to be too powerful, we will simply re-ban it.
tagging Kris to implement
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