Adaam
The point of g to the b's list of calcs was demonstrating how a vast majority of the tier forces MVenu to heal ASAP because of the amount of damages it takes upon switchin in. The Venu has to chose between staying healthy or running low if it doesn't heal. Healing means you have a free switch into your check/counter. I don't think at any point was this list posted to show that these Pokemons can 1v1 Venu or switch on it.
Regarding your other point about passive damages, keep in mind that if your opponent has to Defog to get rid of the hazards that will take Venusaur down, that means your own checks/counters (especially flying types) are not taking entry damages when having to deal with Venu. Also, this is a detail, but the only weather XY OU had that saw actual play was Tyranitar's Sand Stream, which is similar to Hippo's as it's coming from a Pokemon Venusaur beats 1v1.
Honestly, I can't post a whole list on "how to passively deal with Venusaur", because that'd require too much time and details. It's all about building a team that can win the hazard war and pressuring Venusaur as a result (or anything else for that matter). That being said, I actually laddered with a Balance that mostly dealt with Venusaur passively, so I looked into my replays to see if there was one against a Venusaur, and I happened to have one. You can watch it here: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7uu-782685674
My answers to Venusaur with this team were hazards pressure, Tentacruel/Empoleon/Chesnaught as soft checks and Snorlax as "counter". I have faced a bunch of Venusaur while laddering with this team all the way, and while it was a threat that kept it on my toes, I never found it to be overbearing. You "just" have to play and build cleverly, which IMO is a good thing to have in the tier. I don't mean to flatter myself here, but I just want to point out that Venusaur has drawbacks that can be exploted with skill and outplay. For comparaison, I wouldn't say the same about a defensive Pokemon with Regenerator who can heal for free and for which chip damages dont matter.
I also wanna say that I agree with Chandell's post and the fact that MVenu can centralize UU in a healthy way by offering a blank check to the many offensive threats roaming in the tier while having enough counterplays at disposal.
The point of g to the b's list of calcs was demonstrating how a vast majority of the tier forces MVenu to heal ASAP because of the amount of damages it takes upon switchin in. The Venu has to chose between staying healthy or running low if it doesn't heal. Healing means you have a free switch into your check/counter. I don't think at any point was this list posted to show that these Pokemons can 1v1 Venu or switch on it.
Regarding your other point about passive damages, keep in mind that if your opponent has to Defog to get rid of the hazards that will take Venusaur down, that means your own checks/counters (especially flying types) are not taking entry damages when having to deal with Venu. Also, this is a detail, but the only weather XY OU had that saw actual play was Tyranitar's Sand Stream, which is similar to Hippo's as it's coming from a Pokemon Venusaur beats 1v1.
Honestly, I can't post a whole list on "how to passively deal with Venusaur", because that'd require too much time and details. It's all about building a team that can win the hazard war and pressuring Venusaur as a result (or anything else for that matter). That being said, I actually laddered with a Balance that mostly dealt with Venusaur passively, so I looked into my replays to see if there was one against a Venusaur, and I happened to have one. You can watch it here: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7uu-782685674
My answers to Venusaur with this team were hazards pressure, Tentacruel/Empoleon/Chesnaught as soft checks and Snorlax as "counter". I have faced a bunch of Venusaur while laddering with this team all the way, and while it was a threat that kept it on my toes, I never found it to be overbearing. You "just" have to play and build cleverly, which IMO is a good thing to have in the tier. I don't mean to flatter myself here, but I just want to point out that Venusaur has drawbacks that can be exploted with skill and outplay. For comparaison, I wouldn't say the same about a defensive Pokemon with Regenerator who can heal for free and for which chip damages dont matter.
I also wanna say that I agree with Chandell's post and the fact that MVenu can centralize UU in a healthy way by offering a blank check to the many offensive threats roaming in the tier while having enough counterplays at disposal.