Jukain
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Approving Magneton for an analysis based on the favorable ORAS changes and arguments previous to ORAS.
havokchomp123 you can update Chesnaught.
havokchomp123 you can update Chesnaught.
I already took Sharpedo in the previous thread. Used that mega the most prolly out of everyone.taking sharpedo
mod edit: read the above post
I think that the person who was doing Greninja for XY was gonna hold off on it so they could complete it for ORAS. Correct me if I'm wrong tho, I think I saw that on the XY Analysis Reservation threadseeing how the old reservation thread was deleted, could I do Latios (ORAS Revamp)? Additionally, could I do Greninja (ORAS Revamp)?
about to PM jukakin
wallpost, PM is inbox.Ok. What about Latios?
e: wait is VM wallpost or inbox?
It'll just be a slash? Isn't Dragon Dance viable on M-Latios with its 130 Attack though?We /do/ have to include Mega Latios into the analysis, but that will just be via a slash on the Life Orb set
That's true, Mega Altaria is definitely one of, if not the best Dragon Dancers due to its superior typing. I'm not out to prove anything, because I can agree that Mega Latios is kinda mediocre - not because of its 130 attack which is underwhelming without a boost, but because regular Latios is stronger than it with a Life Orb, can Defog, and does not take up a mega slot.DD is not viable on Latios because there are better Dragon Dance users around, especially Mega Altaria, and base 130 Attack without a boosting item or nature isn't really that strong. It was a cool gimmick/surprise set in BW, but it is unviable in XY. You are open to prove otherwise Cloud_Nine987
Have to disagree with this, Steelix has a second superior STAB as well as a better Special Defense. It also sets up Stealth Rock, can also Roar out, and hits harder with Heavy Slam as well as Earthquake does superior damage.. It also does have superior coverage, and in fact, it works very good on sand teams in as it does have Sand Force. They're facing competition yes, but Mega-Steelix does have its niches over Mega-Aggron in the tier, as listed before.I'm also happy that we actually aren't getting a Steelix analysis, on an unrelated note, because that thing is 100% outdone by M-Aggron.
That's true as well, but Aggron can set up Stealth Rock and use Roar, but it has Filter. That's really big because nothing actually deals 2x damage to it, only 1.5x. Steelix has better Sdef but it takes hits much worse than Aggron in general. But yes, it does have its niche on sand teams, but sand isn't necessarily an easy playstyle to build aroundHave to disagree with this, Steelix has a second superior STAB as well as a better Special Defense. It also sets up Stealth Rock, can also Roar out, and hits harder with Heavy Slam as well as Earthquake does superior damage.. It also does have superior coverage, and in fact, it works very good on sand teams in as it does have Sand Force.
In that calc, it does, but you don't have any Sp. Defense EVs on Aggron so that's irrelevant.4 SpA Mega Tyranitar Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Steelix: 114-136 (32.2 - 38.4%) -- 97.5% chance to 3HKO
4 SpA Mega Tyranitar Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 138-163 (40.1 - 47.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
I think, in fact, M-Steelix takes 'em better.
i assumed m-aggron used offensive, my bad lolIn that calc, it does, but you don't have any Sp. Defense EVs on Aggron so that's irrelevant.
4 SpA Mega Tyranitar Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 94-112 (27.3 - 32.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
4 SpA Mega Tyranitar Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Steelix: 144-170 (40.6 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
There isn't any special evs on mega aggron4 SpA Mega Tyranitar Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Steelix: 114-136 (32.2 - 38.4%) -- 97.5% chance to 3HKO
4 SpA Mega Tyranitar Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 138-163 (40.1 - 47.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
I think, in fact, M-Steelix takes 'em better.