It happens only for Skymin and new Rotoms. Everything else is the same.
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Platinum Changes on Shoddy!
- Thread starter Galliance
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EXACTLY. They needed a way to make d/p have something over platinum. Basically everyone will have your same mindset, "unless I'm using Platinum only pokemon why shouldn't I use D/P?"
Ah, my mistake. All the better though.
not yet, but it shouldn't be too long
This brings up a decent point... where do we report learnset errors?
I honestly think it was a huge mistake to put Skymin in, unless we're certain that he's playable in some multiplayer battle.
Also can we please not turn this into "guess how good skymin is in dp" please kay thanks
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Except here on Smogon, where all three of those are uber. Skymin won't last long either I suspect, but I'm sure there will be a grace period of a few weeks so people can actually play around with it before it gets banned from standards.
I disagree about Skymin. Its easy to take out with all the ScarfTrans and Mamoswine being played, and the addition of viable priority to like every pokemon under the sun.
Skymin does have Earth Power, so Heatran isn't completely free to come in on it. Also Mamoswine is completely murdered by Leaf Storm or any other grass attack so it won't be switching in. Anything with Ice Shard will do major damage to Skymin, but very few things with Ice Shard can actually switch into Skymin.
1.) I assumed that when you said easy to take out that you meant counter because sacrificing something to get a free switch in to attempt to revenge kill something isn't what I'd consider easy, you still lost one Pokemon and did nothing more then force Skymin to switch.
2.) Prediction.
Regardless, it will be very interesting to see how Platinum shakes up the metagame. Everything and its mother having Outrage is going to be very interesting, as will all the Super Powers being thrown around. I think that with Hypnosis being dropped down we'll see the game shift even more towards pure offense, which I don't think will make the game any more enjoyable.
I wish Game Freak could just attempt to balance their walls and sweepers for once.
1) You can still send Heatran in on 3/4 standard attacks for pitiful damage. Your just trying to come up with someone doing something as stupifying as trying to predict a Heatran switch by Earth Powering a Celebi. And to that last comment in #1, that is a price, and either way, there is always that little prediction thing you just talked about in #2, predicting the switch to x ice resist, and stone edge/earthquaking.
2) Theres prediction, and there's over prediction, Earth Power on a Celebi, thats over prediction.
Pokemon without STAB outrage won't use it much, I can't see Gyarados using it at all, nor can I see Venusaur. Charizard and Tyranitar didn't use it, why would they now.
2) Theres prediction, and there's over prediction, Earth Power on a Celebi, thats over prediction.
Pokemon without STAB outrage won't use it much, I can't see Gyarados using it at all, nor can I see Venusaur. Charizard and Tyranitar didn't use it, why would they now.
Meh, just because it's never been done before doesn't mean its bad. Sure Dragon with no STAB may not hit too many weaks, but it's potentially useful. I mean, can you imagine if Tinted Lens Yanmega got Draco Meteor? lol
Well, even if you didn't like draco meteor's 1-move-flawless-coverage, you could always run Bug Buzz alongside it . . . heck, tinted lens' # 1 set is Specs. Bug Buzz / Draco Meteor / Aero Slash / Hidden Power would work, seeing as yanmega has few options open to it as it is. You could hit with Draco Meteor at the start when you don't know what's on the opposing team, and follow it up with a Bug Buzz sweep later.[/end pointless theorymonning]
Seriously... why the hell are you still going on about this? Predict the Heatran switch, Earth Power; predict the Celebi switch, Air Slash; etc, etc, etc. You can just as easily predict correctly as you can over predict, and all of it changes as you learn more and more about the opposing players team. It really doesn't matter at all at this point. Posting "well I predicted your prediction" is just stupid, this isn't a battle.
What matters is Skymins coverage and abilities as a sweeper and how its survivability combines with it. Just the threat of having Earth Power drastically alters what gets switched into it as a counter. It would be like saying that Tyranitar can switch into a Flamethrower from Infernape and be a great counter.
I could see stuff randomly packing Outrage just to handle various dragons. Outrage being on a bunch of stuff could potentially limit the success of Yache Garchomp, which might warrant another test. Also Salamence getting Outrage scares me, that thing was flexible and strong enough as it was.
Besides, Outrage is simply a strong move with great type coverage. It is a pretty nice move to just throw out there and watch it do neutral damage to everything not Steel. It all depends on how the environment shapes up, and I'm pretty sure it is going towards being hyper offensive.