Sigh... it is hard to understand then. Truth or not, that's one of the best fucking ways to push undecided voters AWAY from you.So no to 1 and yes to 2?
Sigh... it is hard to understand then. Truth or not, that's one of the best fucking ways to push undecided voters AWAY from you.So no to 1 and yes to 2?
Also DestinyUnknown if your argument is "won't nobody think of the poor nazis" you might just have a poor argument.
last I checked doing exactly that landed a certain person the presidency of a very powerful country.I didn't bring that up, I was just responding to the person that did, as he called all Trump voters ''literal, real life nazis''. I'm fine with responding to anything but please read everything before.
And that's way to oversimplify what I said. I'm just saying that spewing hate in every possible manner is exactly the way of making things worse. Nobody benefits from that.
I am sure he's glad you helped him out.last I checked doing exactly that landed a certain person the presidency of a very powerful country.
Precisely. If calling people nazis and promoting the 'us vs them' mentality just helped Trump win the election, why would that change now?last I checked doing exactly that landed a certain person the presidency of a very powerful country.
By keeping the insults and lack of empathy for the voters that already felt cornered, we are just incentivizing the existing toxicity. This is what happened throughout all the campaign and what led to the radical messages to triumph. Did it work for Clinton? Did it work for America?
But should I? I don't want Trump as President, but I don't want to piss off his voters (well, those who voted for him for reasons other than out of hate).if you guys really feel that this is unfair heres a link for you
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-...ake-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?
I think you mean the fifth or so? And that means we have a ~7% fail rate on the electoral college. That's why it needs to go, or at the least be reformed.Well, if someone gets the popular AND electoral college vote i don't know you can complain, it wouldn't make sense. But it's the third time it happens now, isn't it? And people have always complained when it happened.
Feel free to sign the petition if you want of course, but realize that this is completely unrealistic. It's hard to tell from the petition because it doesn't really list the facts, but it isn't going to happen. Hillary and Obama have also already conceeded, I doubt they'll want to be like "jk" at the last minute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electorBut should I? I don't want Trump as President, but I don't want to piss off his voters (well, those who voted for him for reasons other than out of hate).
For those of you who didn't vote for Trump, what do you think is the safer option?
Take our chances with Trump, and hope everything works out, or sign and pass on that petition, and possibly earn the animosity of every person who hates Hillary? I hate Hillary, so I understand why people voted against her, or not at all, but I outright am terrified of Trump, and have been given no logical reason to feel otherwise.
I don't think I've ever felt so confused and scared in my life.
Then there is no point. Time would be better spend talking to like minded folks who are devastating, and thinking of ways to prepare for the worst.Feel free to sign the petition if you want of course, but realize that this is completely unrealistic. It's hard to tell from the petition because it doesn't really list the facts, but it isn't going to happen. Hillary and Obama have also already conceeded, I doubt they'll want to be like "jk" at the last minute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
Read "I didn't like the results of this election so I want a do over"if you guys really feel that this is unfair heres a link for you
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-...ake-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?
just calling a spade a spade, your daffy snark doesn't change that.I am sure he's glad you helped him out.
Nah, actually, I just saw this video, and honestly I think he nailed it perfectly well.just calling a spade a spade, your daffy snark doesn't change that.
I think it's a little hypocritical to frame it this way after considering how this campaign was run.
What can there possibly be to blackmail Trump with after all he went through in the elections? It was shown that he had evaded taxes, declared bankruptcy, scammed people, neglected to pay workers, harassed women, mocked the disabled, mocked veterans, mocked the parents of a dead veteran, conspicuously refused to show any actual evidence for his wealth, courted racists and xenophobes, publicly and repeatedly encouraged war crimes, used a charitable foundation as a personal bank acount, and bragged about being able to get away with freaking assault. Among other things.I'm not an international politics expert, but I think it stands to reason that Putin has some damning things on Trump that he can use to blackmail the President. Whoopee.
boy you actually need to formulate a coherent response on your own to the question at hand than posting a random self-righteous video rehashing Clinton's "scandals", repeatedly throwing in "of course! i knew"Nah, actually, I just saw this video, and honestly I think he nailed it perfectly well.
True, you're absolutely right. This was finally revealed once and for all when Madam President Hillary Clinton won.No one gives a shit.
Well, if nobody gave a shit, he wouldn't have won, now would he? Perhaps you don't, because you think that video is self-righteous when you reek of a better-than-thou attitude. "Oh, he insulted everyone".. yeah? And? So, you're saying that insults are bad? Then why are you guys so busy doing it? Your constant labelling (fascists, nazist, racist, secist, xenophobic, islamophobic, whatever) does in fact drive people nuts. And eventually, guess what, it backfires.boy you actually need to formulate a coherent response on your own to the question at hand than posting a random self-righteous video rehashing Clinton's "scandals", repeatedly throwing in "of course! i knew"
No one gives a shit. I'll reiterate because your responses don't inspire a lot of confidence your comprehension.
Trump outshouted everyone and insulted literally insulted everyone he could throughout the campaign. In the vilest ways imaginable. People can't suddenly stroll in here and start claiming "of course liberals here are the cocky insulting assholes. We were all fed up! If only it weren't so. Let's all be nice." :).
Justify that.
You're still not answering the question. He has made statements that legitimately qualify him for many of those tags. Misspelling and dismissing them in brackets doesn't make you right.Well, if nobody gave a shit, he wouldn't have won, now would he? Perhaps you don't, because you think that video is self-righteous when you reek of a better-than-thou attitude. "Oh, he insulted everyone".. yeah? And? So, you're saying that insults are bad? Then why are you guys so busy doing it? Your constant labelling (fascists, nazist, racist, secist, xenophobic, islamophobic, whatever) does in fact drive people nuts. And eventually, guess what, it backfires.
I understand that sentiment, but please be aware that this "truth or not" stance actively promotes dishonesty in politics for the sake of sparing the feelings of people who are ignorant at best and hateful at worst, and those same people don't play by your rules.Sigh... it is hard to understand then. Truth or not, that's one of the best fucking ways to push undecided voters AWAY from you.
The poster you quoted did not do that, he pointed out that literal, real life nazis voted for Trump, which is true beyond reasonable doubt. You were simply twisting his words, which I don't have to do to pull out this lovely quote of yours,I didn't bring that up, I was just responding to the person that did, as he called all Trump voters ''literal, real life nazis''. I'm fine with responding to anything but please read everything before.
And that's way to oversimplify what I said. I'm just saying that spewing hate in every possible manner is exactly the way of making things worse. Nobody benefits from that.
so idk what you're trying to do by making me read the posts, which I had already done.And have you stopped to think for a moment that back in the day, the Nazi vote was understandable?
Because honestly the only answer I could possibly give to it is the exact answer you want. This is a either "you're with me on this, or you're a retarded racist/sexist...whatever" question. My lack of worry about him "insulting everyone" (I've only seen him insult muslims and mexicans) is that it just purely is tapping into emotions people already harbor. You call it racism, I call it "ISIS exists, they behead people. Mexican cartels exist, they fill our streets with drugs.".. a geniune worry. And he taps into that for voters. You know the saying "one bad apple spoils the rest".You're still not answering the question. He has made statements that legitimately qualify him for many of those tags. Misspelling and dismissing them I'm brackets doesn't make you right.
Let's try this again. I have faith in you. Explain your rhetoric.
But you made the bad apple your president.You know the saying "one bad apple spoils the rest".
I? I am not even American.But you made the bad apple your president.