When people write:
"Tornadus-T to B+: Agree"
Some people, especially new and inexperienced players who reap the most out of the Viabilty Rankings might not know if Tornadus-T is A- or B- right now so they are either forced to check the first page of this thread for its current ranking or read the text. A good headline makes the reader immediatly know if you are dealing with a rise or a drop. The reason for this happening lately is probably Finchinator whose discussionspoints are being copypasted. There was a time you did this:
Kyurem-Black from A to A-
but now you do this:
Tornadus-Therian to B+
I do not know what made you change the old style but I hope you come back to it and maybe even add a sprite to avoid random oversized pics from other sources people post because the easiest thing after copypaste is googling.
from B- to B.
Current B-:
Mamoswine, Mimikyu, Skarmory, Terrakion etc.
current B:
Garchomp, Bisharp, Suicune, Heracross etc.
Mega Heracross takes advantage of the insane usage of Kartana. Kartana getting Knock Off and it being a spammable move gives Heracross another free switch-in. Aerical Ace, an old move used to revengekill weakened Volcarona is now nonexistant and Smart Strike is also decreasing in usage with Defog and Knock Off being competitors.
Teams with Landorus-T still prefer Scarf or Defensive Sets and while Z-Fly is deadly, it is harder to fit on teams.
Gliscor is usually used for Defogging purposes and thus only has Toxic or Earthquake to damage Mega Heracross. SD into Rock Blast can kill and if it doesn't, what does Gliscor back to you? You can just Substitute on switch, force Roost and Pin Missile when it is free while Earthquake doesn't break Sub.
Toxapex is still Spdef these days to deal with Specs Gren and dies to +2 Adamant Rock Blast after Rocks pretty convincingly. SD is not necesarry actually because Scald does not break the Sub and spamming Rock Blast breaks Pex anyway because of its high 40 PP. Having Knock Off support is useful to threaten Pex more without SD and this is easily achieved with Knock Off Ferrothorn or Clefable who have those moves as staple on many teams Mega Heracross fits on.
Hawlucha is very common but forcing that mon in just to check Heracross is amazing. If it comes in without the correct Terrain your team should be able to deal with it. One thing I love is forcing in Lucha without Terrain and then going hard to my Koko, wasting its Seed and not having to worry about him later in the game.
Mega Pinsir usage is decreasing in ladder (not sure abt tours but I feel like it is low there as well from Dokkerich uploads) but Tornadus-T is very common. However it is not a reliable check unless it wants to use its Z-Move. Making aggressive players early game can force Tornadus-T to waste its Z-Move prematurely. Both, Mega Pinsir and Tornadus-T obv. cannot switch into Rock Blast.
Clefable is a solid mon lately to deal with Lucha and Zygardes but without Unaware (lower usage) it doesn't counter Heracross. Also, an offensive core consisting of Zygarde+Heracross can help overwhelm defensive answers such as Clefable or for a Hawlucha lategame sweep.
Mega Heracross is the definition of Bulky and Offensive so it should be B anyway just to show the respect it deserves for the best playstyle in USM OU (Dont take this one too seriously) ;)
Random Calcs with no context:
252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 225-270 (80 - 96%) -- approx. 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 255-300 (90.7 - 106.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
"Tornadus-T to B+: Agree"
Some people, especially new and inexperienced players who reap the most out of the Viabilty Rankings might not know if Tornadus-T is A- or B- right now so they are either forced to check the first page of this thread for its current ranking or read the text. A good headline makes the reader immediatly know if you are dealing with a rise or a drop. The reason for this happening lately is probably Finchinator whose discussionspoints are being copypasted. There was a time you did this:
Kyurem-Black from A to A-
but now you do this:
Tornadus-Therian to B+
I do not know what made you change the old style but I hope you come back to it and maybe even add a sprite to avoid random oversized pics from other sources people post because the easiest thing after copypaste is googling.
Current B-:
Mamoswine, Mimikyu, Skarmory, Terrakion etc.
current B:
Garchomp, Bisharp, Suicune, Heracross etc.
Mega Heracross takes advantage of the insane usage of Kartana. Kartana getting Knock Off and it being a spammable move gives Heracross another free switch-in. Aerical Ace, an old move used to revengekill weakened Volcarona is now nonexistant and Smart Strike is also decreasing in usage with Defog and Knock Off being competitors.
Teams with Landorus-T still prefer Scarf or Defensive Sets and while Z-Fly is deadly, it is harder to fit on teams.
Gliscor is usually used for Defogging purposes and thus only has Toxic or Earthquake to damage Mega Heracross. SD into Rock Blast can kill and if it doesn't, what does Gliscor back to you? You can just Substitute on switch, force Roost and Pin Missile when it is free while Earthquake doesn't break Sub.
Toxapex is still Spdef these days to deal with Specs Gren and dies to +2 Adamant Rock Blast after Rocks pretty convincingly. SD is not necesarry actually because Scald does not break the Sub and spamming Rock Blast breaks Pex anyway because of its high 40 PP. Having Knock Off support is useful to threaten Pex more without SD and this is easily achieved with Knock Off Ferrothorn or Clefable who have those moves as staple on many teams Mega Heracross fits on.
Hawlucha is very common but forcing that mon in just to check Heracross is amazing. If it comes in without the correct Terrain your team should be able to deal with it. One thing I love is forcing in Lucha without Terrain and then going hard to my Koko, wasting its Seed and not having to worry about him later in the game.
Mega Pinsir usage is decreasing in ladder (not sure abt tours but I feel like it is low there as well from Dokkerich uploads) but Tornadus-T is very common. However it is not a reliable check unless it wants to use its Z-Move. Making aggressive players early game can force Tornadus-T to waste its Z-Move prematurely. Both, Mega Pinsir and Tornadus-T obv. cannot switch into Rock Blast.
Clefable is a solid mon lately to deal with Lucha and Zygardes but without Unaware (lower usage) it doesn't counter Heracross. Also, an offensive core consisting of Zygarde+Heracross can help overwhelm defensive answers such as Clefable or for a Hawlucha lategame sweep.
Mega Heracross is the definition of Bulky and Offensive so it should be B anyway just to show the respect it deserves for the best playstyle in USM OU (Dont take this one too seriously) ;)
Random Calcs with no context:
252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 225-270 (80 - 96%) -- approx. 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 255-300 (90.7 - 106.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
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