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Project USUM UU Lure that Threat - On Hold for UUPL
- Thread starter autumn
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Misa for being one of the few that works outside of just luring chestnaught
Gz to cute user Amane Misa! You will be added to the archive owo.
This lad has been dropped into the tier after making it through a suspect, it has a 4x weakness to fighting which means it's pretty clear what type moves you gotta run to hit this thing.
Lures are due by Tuesday at 11:59 PM GMT -7
This lad has been dropped into the tier after making it through a suspect, it has a 4x weakness to fighting which means it's pretty clear what type moves you gotta run to hit this thing.
Lures are due by Tuesday at 11:59 PM GMT -7
when it rains (Hydreigon) @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 8 HP / 8 Def / 240 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Focus Blast
- Roost
- Dark Pulse
- Defog
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 8 HP / 8 Def / 240 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Focus Blast
- Roost
- Dark Pulse
- Defog
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Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Defog
- Roost
- Aura Sphere (or Fire Blast)
Defog Togekiss, but with extra speed to creep Adamant Bisharp and Aura Sphere to kill it before it can use Iron Head or Swords Dance. Bisharp likes to switch into Togekiss once it's revealed to be leftovers, to possibly gain a Defiant boost from defog and/or force it out, so it'll be taken by surprise when it gets outsped and OHKOed. While this set gives up the utility of Heal Bell or the paraflinch Thunder Wave in the last slot, once Bisharp is gone, Togekiss can defog freely, so this set is good for teams that really need the compression.
Fire Blast is also an option that comes with the benefit of hitting Scizor, but that needs to be hit on the switch as banded Bullet Punch OHKOs after rocks. Aura Sphere also does more to rockers like Empoleon and prevents Stakataka from freely setting up. The EVs can also be optimized, such as 36+ SpA for more power.
0 SpA Togekiss Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 360-424 (132.8 - 156.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Togekiss Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 248-292 (91.5 - 107.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock (43.8% without)
Even Defiant-boosted Sucker Punch doesn't do much: +2 252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Togekiss: 128-151 (34.2 - 40.3%)
Just hope it's not Jolly, because flinch or chip = death: 252 Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Togekiss: 222-264 (59.3 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Togekiss Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 248-292 (91.5 - 107.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock (43.8% without)
Even Defiant-boosted Sucker Punch doesn't do much: +2 252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Togekiss: 128-151 (34.2 - 40.3%)
Just hope it's not Jolly, because flinch or chip = death: 252 Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Togekiss: 222-264 (59.3 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Florges (F) @ Babiri Berry/Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Synthesis
- Heal Bell
Was going to do this with Sylveon but that mon is ass. Bisharp probably won’t scout the Babiri if it gets a free switch in. An unboosted Iron Head only 3HKOs Florges with the berry. HP Fighting cleanly OHKOes Bisharp after rocks. HP Fighting is still a useful tool to still touch Mega Aggron and Mega Lix as a last ditch effort. Leftovers can be used too if you don’t want the berry to be complete overkill.
0 SpA Florges Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 256-304 (94.4 - 112.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
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Celebi @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fighting] / Earth Power
Celebi takes neutral damage from Iron Head, and that'll never OHKO from Neutral. Come in on something you force out, set up the NP, nail Bisharp with the HP Fighting or EP depending on your preference. EP hits steels like MAggron, HP Fight lets you hit Hydrei and Bisharp.
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Gengar @ Fightinium Z/Life Orb
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Sludge Wave
- Destiny Bond
Pretty simple, Destiny Bond always blocks sucker punch, then you lure Bisharp into a situation in which it either suckers and trades, or you kill it with (Z) Focus Blast. At worst, this Gengar will always trade with Bisharp, at best, this Gengar will KO it.
Subs Azelf Adrenaline Orb
Azelf @ Adrenaline Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Flamethrower
- Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
The purpose here is as follows, once you let clear you're not Suicide Lead Azelf, Bisharp will always click Sucker punch in attempt to get the kill,this turn you click Subs, next turn you can either kill Bisharp or catch Hydreigon with Dazzling Gleam if your opp predict the Flamethrower, Adrenaline Orb it's here alongside Dazzling Gleam cause once you kill Bisharp, Krook can try to revenge kill you, Adrenaline Orb will be activated and you be able to do a good damage with Dazzling Gleam or even kill Krook if it already get some chip damage previously.
Azelf @ Adrenaline Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Flamethrower
- Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
The purpose here is as follows, once you let clear you're not Suicide Lead Azelf, Bisharp will always click Sucker punch in attempt to get the kill,this turn you click Subs, next turn you can either kill Bisharp or catch Hydreigon with Dazzling Gleam if your opp predict the Flamethrower, Adrenaline Orb it's here alongside Dazzling Gleam cause once you kill Bisharp, Krook can try to revenge kill you, Adrenaline Orb will be activated and you be able to do a good damage with Dazzling Gleam or even kill Krook if it already get some chip damage previously.
252 SpA Azelf Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 256-302 (94.4 - 111.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Azelf Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 372-440 (114.4 - 135.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Azelf Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 228-270 (68.8 - 81.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Azelf Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 372-440 (114.4 - 135.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Azelf Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 228-270 (68.8 - 81.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Special Crobat
Crobat @ Firium Z
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heat Wave
- Nasty Plot
- Air Slash
- Roost
You can survive to Sucker Punch no boosted of Bisharp and kill him with Z Heat Wave. Even +2, u guarantee kill on Mega Lix, and after spikes/chip damage, you guarantee kill on Aggron, o_O.
Crobat @ Firium Z
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heat Wave
- Nasty Plot
- Air Slash
- Roost
You can survive to Sucker Punch no boosted of Bisharp and kill him with Z Heat Wave. Even +2, u guarantee kill on Mega Lix, and after spikes/chip damage, you guarantee kill on Aggron, o_O.
252 SpA Crobat Inferno Overdrive (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 340-400 (125.4 - 147.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Crobat Inferno Overdrive (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 316-373 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Crobat Inferno Overdrive (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Steelix-Mega: 434-512 (122.5 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Crobat Inferno Overdrive (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 316-373 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Crobat Inferno Overdrive (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Steelix-Mega: 434-512 (122.5 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Raikou @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Rash Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aura Sphere
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
this is pretty straight forward, you can sub on the sucker punch or just straigh up hit em with aura sphere. Also Z fight makes u 2hko aggron and ohko mamoswine. And rash nature isnt so bad on Raikou.
252+ SpA Raikou Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 472-556 (174.1 - 205.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Raikou All-Out Pummeling (160 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 219-258 (63.8 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Raikou All-Out Pummeling (160 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 219-258 (63.8 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Cresselia (F) @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Moonlight
- Moonblast
Bit gimmicky, but pretty straightforward as well, like a lot of other sets lol. Sub on switch, HP Fighting does around 70ish for a 2hko. You don't even need to sub up thanks to the berry if you can hit it on switchin, but subs a lot safer. If it doesn't lose its berry, it might even be able to beat Sharpedo depending on it's health.
0 SpA Cresselia Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 180-216 (66.4 - 79.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 204 HP / 252 Def Colbur Berry Cresselia: 102-121 (23.6 - 28%) -- 88.8% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 204 HP / 252 Def Colbur Berry Cresselia: 144-169 (33.3 - 39.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Strong Jaw Sharpedo-Mega Crunch vs. 204 HP / 252 Def Colbur Berry Cresselia: 159-187 (36.8 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Cresselia Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Sharpedo-Mega: 154-182 (54.8 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 204 HP / 252 Def Colbur Berry Cresselia: 102-121 (23.6 - 28%) -- 88.8% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 204 HP / 252 Def Colbur Berry Cresselia: 144-169 (33.3 - 39.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Strong Jaw Sharpedo-Mega Crunch vs. 204 HP / 252 Def Colbur Berry Cresselia: 159-187 (36.8 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Cresselia Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Sharpedo-Mega: 154-182 (54.8 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Defog
- Roost
- Aura Sphere (or Fire Blast)
Defog Togekiss, but with extra speed to creep Adamant Bisharp and Aura Sphere to kill it before it can use Iron Head or Swords Dance. Bisharp likes to switch into Togekiss once it's revealed to be leftovers, to possibly gain a Defiant boost from defog and/or force it out, so it'll be taken by surprise when it gets outsped and OHKOed. While this set gives up the utility of Heal Bell or the paraflinch Thunder Wave in the last slot, once Bisharp is gone, Togekiss can defog freely, so this set is good for teams that really need the compression.
Fire Blast is also an option that comes with the benefit of hitting Scizor, but that needs to be hit on the switch as banded Bullet Punch OHKOs after rocks. Aura Sphere also does more to rockers like Empoleon and prevents Stakataka from freely setting up. The EVs can also be optimized, such as 36+ SpA for more power.
0 SpA Togekiss Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 360-424 (132.8 - 156.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Togekiss Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 248-292 (91.5 - 107.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock (43.8% without)
Even Defiant-boosted Sucker Punch doesn't do much: +2 252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Togekiss: 128-151 (34.2 - 40.3%)
Just hope it's not Jolly, because flinch or chip = death: 252 Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Togekiss: 222-264 (59.3 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Florges (F) @ Babiri Berry/Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Synthesis
- Heal Bell
Was going to do this with Sylveon but that mon is ass. Bisharp probably won’t scout the Babiri if it gets a free switch in. An unboosted Iron Head only 3HKOs Florges with the berry. HP Fighting cleanly OHKOes Bisharp after rocks. HP Fighting is still a useful tool to still touch Mega Aggron and Mega Lix as a last ditch effort. Leftovers can be used too if you don’t want the berry to be complete overkill.
0 SpA Florges Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 256-304 (94.4 - 112.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Celebi @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fighting] / Earth Power
Celebi takes neutral damage from Iron Head, and that'll never OHKO from Neutral. Come in on something you force out, set up the NP, nail Bisharp with the HP Fighting or EP depending on your preference. EP hits steels like MAggron, HP Fight lets you hit Hydrei and Bisharp.
Voting ends Thursday 11:59 PM GMT -7
Putting my vote in for Rose. Kudos to you for a very creative lure
Scizorphobic's set seems the most efficient. It doesn't make Hydreigon lose consistency throughout matches, nor does it make Hydreigon lose effectiveness, and it makes for a good lure to Steel-types in general, not just Bisharp.
The moment Hydreigon reveals Defog or Roost, the opponent is less likely to assume it has super effective coverage for Steel-types, hence they're more likely to stay in.
Just, please, don't forgo Draco Meteor. The set should be Draco Meteor, Dark Pulse, Focus Blast, Defog/Roost/Taunt.
Thanks.
The moment Hydreigon reveals Defog or Roost, the opponent is less likely to assume it has super effective coverage for Steel-types, hence they're more likely to stay in.
Just, please, don't forgo Draco Meteor. The set should be Draco Meteor, Dark Pulse, Focus Blast, Defog/Roost/Taunt.
Thanks.
I vote for snorlax142857's Togekiss since it's dumb to waste a slot for hp fighting or to run a z-move for a mon like Bisharp, Togekiss does the job perfectly, Fire Blast / Aura Sphere fits pretty well on the set, once the opponent sees defog he's likely to wanna bring Bisharp so it's effective as a lure and having a defogger that doesn't allow Bisharp to come in is pretty nice.
I vote for the bat. I'd never play ballsy against a Hydreigon anyways since even Z-Draco does a metric chunk ton. The Raikou I'd never stay in on since shiny basically reveals you're the aura sphere Raikou. The others, like Cress and Florges, while effective, take moveslots away from two mons that really appreciate having the 4 of them. The bat would not only be the one I least expect, but takes a fresh new spin on the mon since the normal bat sets have been admittedly mediocre lately.
np bat