I'm looking for someone competent in the OU metagame to join me in building a good team. PM me if interested.
Garchomp will be here for the forseeable future; it is now OU. As predicted, it isn't as game-changing of a force as its Uber's status deemed it. Essentially it has SubSD sets and the Choice Scarf set to use viably. Without the ability to boost its speed, pain SD and Choice Band sets find themselves in a pinch from all the Ice Beams thrown around by Genesect and Ice Shard's from Mamoswine. BulkySR setter faces very stif competition from Landorus-T.K, I haven't been on smogon in forever and I honestly need the low down on what changed. So is chomp back for the foreseeable future or is this a trial ?
Genesect has really become the defining force of the OU metagame. Essentially any team is in the "you can't go wrong" choice with having it on there, which stems from being very versatile. But its versatility is defined that every set is good and excels at its role more than any other Pokemon, whether it be Choice Scarf revenging, CB luring, CSpecs wallbreaking, or RP late game sweeping. It is also one of the few Pokemon to be pretty consistent in stopping Deoxys-D.What are the new major forces ?
Not really. Significant effort has to be put into teambuilding, and even then, you will be much better off just using an offensive team. You will find yourself in a position of either not having the utility to have a stall team (i.e. Rapid Spin, hazards, phazers, enough status users) to function or not having the ability to stop the powerful threats in the metagame. Think of running ShedShell Heatran to stop DuggySun with Gene while also trying to stop Tornadus-T, Terrakion, Lucario, Special and Physical Dragons, etc.Is stall viable ?
Genesect, Deoxys-D, and Tornadus-T are the pokes under the eye by the OU population to get banned in that order. Kyurem-B is considered for a drop.What and why are the current suspects ?
None yet, we (and by that I mean only the suspect council) are deciding to drop all the stuff down first before banning things.What's the decision on Excadrill, and Blaziken for the BW2 metagame?
Just really how offensive the metagame is. No hat3rs going round.Are there any current controversies going on?
Your main team archtypes are:And what do the typical teams of each archetype look like? (HO, Stall, and Balanced are the main ones I'm interested in. ((I'm basically asking for cookie cutter teams to possibly get back into the meta))
Would this be a different story if Swift Swimmers were allowed with Politoed teams?quick feet jolteon is silly for the same reason scarf jolteon is silly - if you need that much speed on jolteon, the problem is with your team. there's a reason specs jolt is a common set but scarf jolt is not - jolt does not need more speed. even in the case of random shit like scarf tornadus-T, such sets are incredibly niche and generally a waste. beyond base 110 speed, almost nothing runs a scarf as a semi-common set. in addition, with jolteon's astounding frailty, the last thing you need is it taking even more damage. you'd probably be better off carrying a choice scarf and retaining your immunity to electric which lets you switch in more easily
deviljho: yes, it raises the pokemon's numeric final stat. if you have 100 defense (not the same as 100 base defense), then eviolite effectively gives you 150
precisely.... there are relatively few scarfers in this game who can outspeed a +2 kingdra in the first place. scarfers would not become more popular if ss+drizzle was legal, since most ssers are fast enough to escape the vast majority of scarfers. you actually need 130 or more speed (ie jolteon and up) and a scarf to outrun +2 jolly kingdra... and if you think jolt can ohko kingdra with its relatively average special attack, you are SORELY mistaken (all its attacks are neutral - jolt scarf thunder vs 0/0 kingdra is maximum 74%, and jolly kingdra outrage is an OHKO on jolt after rocks). jolteon is not a viable check to any standard swift swimmer (except maybe kabutops, but +2 aqua jet in rain destroys you so lol nope you still lose), scarf or no scarf.If swift swim was allowed in OU, I'm pretty sure people would be packing more water resists and not faster pokemon.
This is the only other one I know considering that the Masara Silverlight one is apparently also gone, along with the Kalashnikov oneHonko's damage calculator seems to be down/gone; is there another one that I can access?
Honko has dropped support for the "free-hosting" domain. "Byethost" is still used however and is actually updated with new features. Link here:Honko's damage calculator seems to be down/gone; is there another one that I can access?
I just want to note that this isn't necessarily true. Thundurus-I's higher speed is better in many situations, but Thundurus-T serves a slightly different role. It can boast higher offensive power (also gets Nasty Plot), and it can solve the speed issue by running Agility. Thundurus-I's biggest boon is probably Prankster, when compared to Thundurus-T, as that allows it to get priority Taunt's/Sub's/Thunder Waves off. In a metagame where both were legal, I would see Thundurus-T as having a better chance to boost and sweep, given its stats/movepool, and Thundurus-I would seem to have more of a utility role. Of course this is all speculation as we haven't had a metagame with both of them in it yet, but I just wanted to show that they do serve different roles and shouldn't be compared so simply.And Thundurus-I is much better than Thundurus-T. Being able to outspeed Latios, Gengar, the base 108ers is a big deal. The special attack difference is not an issue because it could easily just boost itself with NP.
http://kalashnikov.pokecenter.ru/damage/ is still working fine for me.This is the only other one I know considering that the Masara Silverlight one is apparently also gone, along with the Kalashnikov one
Welcome to Smogon. You should start at the Articles section if you need to learn more about competitive Pokémon in general, specifically the Competitive Battling Introduction. As you are already aware of, you can browse the RMT forum to get a better idea of how some successful battlers build their teams. If you would like to try building a team and testing it out, hit up Pokemon Showdown to practice. Yes this uses all the Smogon/competitive rules and not the WiFi rules, but you will get experience in battling and teambuilding and test out strategies before going through the effort of training the Pokémon ingame to use on WiFi. (WiFi forum)Can someone link me to the rule set for OU? I'm new to the competitive scene. . .
Also is a lot of the team building info on this site even relevant to just regular random wifi battles? For instance I know drizzle + swift swim is banned, but that's not going to really stop people from using it on wifi. I'm not really sure how you'd ban it in the settings either.
I'm just generally interested in learning how to become an effective team builder. I want to make a good sun team based on volcarona. Is this a good team to try and build around? I'm not going to be super competitive about it on wifi, I don't really have the time to EV train but I can at least try to stick with similar IVs/Natures/Abilities.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3472413
I guess my aim isn't really to get into smogons OU competitive scene rather then just learning how to put together a team with good synergy. I don't really like using legendaries much, which the above team I linked too has in it. I guess I can understand the rating system on here though because of the poke's stat rating.
Thanks!
Since I am not on council I can't tell you for certain, but the impression I got is that people were unhappy with old suspect voting system and the council only version. This system seems to be a mesh of both, working off the benefits of both systems (involving the community + control on what is being voted on). This brings me to the second part of your question. The council chooses what is suspect for the round, and sets the deadlines/ladder requirements.What's the reasoning of bringing back the suspect test? And how do the councilmen work along the suspect voting?