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Project USUM UU Lure that Threat - On Hold for UUPL
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This week we'll be luring Kommo-o! This thing has only gotten better in the meta ever since USUM came around, and it's not stopping it's improvement. It also has some decent defensive stats making it more annoying to deal with than other dragons in certain instances. Kommo-o's 4x weakness to Fairy is unfortunate just like Hydreigon's though, as p much any fairy move can drop this thing's neck, as well as a weakness to other common types like dragon, ice, psychic, and flying.
Lures are due by Wed 11/28/2018 at 11:59 PM GMT -7
This week we'll be luring Kommo-o! This thing has only gotten better in the meta ever since USUM came around, and it's not stopping it's improvement. It also has some decent defensive stats making it more annoying to deal with than other dragons in certain instances. Kommo-o's 4x weakness to Fairy is unfortunate just like Hydreigon's though, as p much any fairy move can drop this thing's neck, as well as a weakness to other common types like dragon, ice, psychic, and flying.
Lures are due by Wed 11/28/2018 at 11:59 PM GMT -7
Empoleon @ Icium Z
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 56 HP / 4 Def / 220 SpA / 228 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Agility
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
Agility Empoleon comes back from ORAS to break through Dragons. Enough Speed to outspeed Choice Scarf Krookodile after an Agility. Enough SpA to nuke every Dragon (except Kyurem) with Subzero Slammer after Stealth Rocks.
Calcs :
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 318-376 (109.2 - 129.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Altaria-Mega: 316-374 (89.5 - 105.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 362-428 (111.3 - 131.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 266-314 (88 - 103.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Chandelure @ Choice Specs
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Flamethrower
252 SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 204-240 (70.1 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
this allows you to spam fire move more if you get one right prediction
also lures hydreigon
last move doesn't matter too much
Gengar @ Leftovers
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hypnosis / Will-O-Wisp / Pain Split / idk some other sort of whacky ass filler.
So Gengar ultimately finds its main STABs doing nothing and Focus Blast gets blocked. It then gets blasted the fuck out of here by clanger’s Clanging Scales. So of course I decided to slap on the Dazzling Gleam for the coverage to bop Clanger. You’re also still hitting the mons that you’d normally hit with Blast like Hydra, Krook, and Terrak too so the opportunity cost is fairly low.
Rotom-Mow @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Volt Switch
- Dream Eater
- Thunderbolt
Rotom-Mow does a good job of luring in Kommo-o, who only really has to worry for Will-O-Wisp which isn't commonly run on Rotom-M unless it can free up Defog. Psychium-Z + Dream Eater OHKOs Kommo-o and does a sizeable chunk to max HP Kommo-o. Not much else to say about the set other than it can also take advantage of the Chesnaught rise. Have fun trying it out ^-^
Calcs:
252 SpA Rotom-Mow Shattered Psyche (180 BP) vs. 248 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 324-382 (91.7 - 108.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Rotom-Mow Shattered Psyche (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 324-382 (111.3 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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So Kommo-o is a fat dragon and isn’t oh-ko ed by Starmie usually.
Also, Kommo-o after dragon dance can outspeed and crush Starmie. This makes choice scarf Starmie a solid lure.
Starmie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Trick
- Rapid Spin / Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hydro Pump
Choice Scarf Starmie bops Kommo-o with Dazzling gleam and surprises Malt, Scarf Krookodile, Scarf Hydreigon, etc. It’s a pretty fun set in general that is a sweet revenge killer/lure while providing the awesome utility that is hazard removal :].
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kommo-o: 237-281 (81.4 - 96.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 205-242 (70.4 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 205-242 (70.4 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Starmie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Trick
- Rapid Spin / Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hydro Pump
Choice Scarf Starmie bops Kommo-o with Dazzling gleam and surprises Malt, Scarf Krookodile, Scarf Hydreigon, etc. It’s a pretty fun set in general that is a sweet revenge killer/lure while providing the awesome utility that is hazard removal :].
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Scarf Nihilego
Nihilego @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Power Gem
- Sludge Wave
- Dazzling Gleam
- Thunderbolt
Nihilego can't down Clanger in a one hit KO with any move, but with Dazzling Gleam, this is possible. You outspeed Kommo-o and kill at this move. This is a good lure for the sets quoted above, unless Malt. HF!
Nihilego @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Power Gem
- Sludge Wave
- Dazzling Gleam
- Thunderbolt
Nihilego can't down Clanger in a one hit KO with any move, but with Dazzling Gleam, this is possible. You outspeed Kommo-o and kill at this move. This is a good lure for the sets quoted above, unless Malt. HF!
Stakataka @ Psychium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Lonely Nature
IVs: 15 Def / 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Superpower/Stone Edge
- Zen Headbutt
- Trick Room
Offensive Stakataka is hot garbage, but it's hot garbage that Kommo-o will hard in on 98% of the time being one of it's best checks. So either on the switch or after setting trick room, just click Psychium Z and watch it fall over.
252+ Atk Stakataka Shattered Psyche (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kommo-o: 318-376 (109.2 - 129.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Rotom-Heat @ Fairium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 20 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Disarming Voice
- Overheat
- Volt Switch
- Defog
when kommo tries to take an overheat or volt switch, it will certainly not expect this move. Also rotom will always outspeed an unboosted kommo. Which is why this is a dope little lure. Twinkle tackle(100bp) will always ohko kommo. It is also a pretty good lure for hydreigon. For some reason the calc isnt working for z disarming voice so I made its 40 bp to 100bp since that is the power for z disarming voice.
20 SpA Rotom-Heat Disarming Voice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 292-348 (100.3 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
20 SpA Rotom-Heat Disarming Voice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 336-396 (103.3 - 121.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Empoleon @ Icium Z
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 56 HP / 4 Def / 220 SpA / 228 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Agility
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
Agility Empoleon comes back from ORAS to break through Dragons. Enough Speed to outspeed Choice Scarf Krookodile after an Agility. Enough SpA to nuke every Dragon (except Kyurem) with Subzero Slammer after Stealth Rocks.
Calcs :
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 318-376 (109.2 - 129.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Altaria-Mega: 316-374 (89.5 - 105.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 362-428 (111.3 - 131.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
• 220 SpA Empoleon Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 266-314 (88 - 103.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Chandelure @ Choice Specs
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Flamethrower
252 SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 204-240 (70.1 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
this allows you to spam fire move more if you get one right prediction
also lures hydreigon
last move doesn't matter too much
Gengar @ Leftovers
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hypnosis / Will-O-Wisp / Pain Split / idk some other sort of whacky ass filler.
So Gengar ultimately finds its main STABs doing nothing and Focus Blast gets blocked. It then gets blasted the fuck out of here by clanger’s Clanging Scales. So of course I decided to slap on the Dazzling Gleam for the coverage to bop Clanger. You’re also still hitting the mons that you’d normally hit with Blast like Hydra, Krook, and Terrak too so the opportunity cost is fairly low.
Rotom-Mow @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Volt Switch
- Dream Eater
- Thunderbolt
Rotom-Mow does a good job of luring in Kommo-o, who only really has to worry for Will-O-Wisp which isn't commonly run on Rotom-M unless it can free up Defog. Psychium-Z + Dream Eater OHKOs Kommo-o and does a sizeable chunk to max HP Kommo-o. Not much else to say about the set other than it can also take advantage of the Chesnaught rise. Have fun trying it out ^-^
Calcs:
252 SpA Rotom-Mow Shattered Psyche (180 BP) vs. 248 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 324-382 (91.7 - 108.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Rotom-Mow Shattered Psyche (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kommo-o: 324-382 (111.3 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Reminder: A lure has to actually lure the mon in.
Because of failing to do so, the Choice Scarf Starmie submission will be invalid. The Nihilego and Gar is also a bit sus but we'll let those slide cause Kommo really doesn't give a fuck about the main STABs of those mons even if it doesn't enjoy Sludge Wave much.
Votes are due by Tues December 4 at 11:59 PM GMT -8
Fairium Z Rotom-H for sure, this set is fire !
fairium heattom is some fire
Fairy Oven gets my vote
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stakataka z zen
Pixie Oven
Fairy Z Rotom-H because it also hits the current UU god Hydra and has a lot of applications outside of just luring Kommo. Its also the lure I'd least expect.
psychium mowtom
backatyoubro
icium empoleon